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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. Molanus hath reproved and corrected him for uncivil speeches against the person of Erasmus, as wherein 3he past the bounds of Christian modesty: not for oversight in that he laid errors to Erasmus charge. Though the special point for which we blame Erasmus, is not this so much of errors in S. Jerome. His censures on S. Austin are misliked most: in that he rejecteth sundry books as counterfeit, which Torrensis proveth to be S. Austins own. Whereof the importance and danger is the greater, because some will have nothing taken for S. Austins, but what Erasmus hath allowed.
Hart. Molanus hath reproued and corrected him for vnciuill spéeches against the person of Erasmus, as wherein 3he past the boundes of Christian modestie: not for ouersight in that hée laid errours to Erasmus charge. Though the speciall point for which we blame Erasmus, is not this so much of errours in S. Ierome. His censures on S. Austin are misliked most: in that he reiecteth sundry bookes as counterfeit, which Torrensis proueth to bee S. Austins owne. Whereof the importance and danger is the greater, because some will haue nothing taken for S. Austins, but what Erasmus hath allowed.
- 3Praeter Christianam modestiam.
Rainoldes. Molanus did cover the sins of Victorius, when he found no other fault with his notes, but of uncivil speeches. If favour to the man, and fancy to the cause had not made him partial: he might have said of him, that as he past the bounds of Christian modesty in 4railing at Erasmus person, so had he past the bounds of Christian truth in noting errors of Erasmus. But dhe that would affirm Erasmus to be ignorant of the Greek tongue, whereof his works so many, both in divinity, and humanity, through all sorts of writers do proclaim the contrary; needeth no other Censor to advertise men, with what eyes he looked into Erasmus doings. It was not Erasmus ignorance of Greek, which bred so many errors in his corrections of, or notes upon, S. Jerome. It was his knowledge of the Latin, the Roman churches faults. It was his skill of the Italian abuses of the Pope. It was