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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. But out of this exception he doth except again, that, although they do not avail much to convince the opinions ⟨p. 199⟩of sectaries, nevertheless there will be godly men and learned, 2who will permit and judge them to be S. Austins own, and will both take delight and profit by reading them. Yet amongst these books, for which he striveth so to have them thought S. Austins, there be that teach contrary to S. Austins doctrine. As namely, the book of visiting the sick: wherein lthe bastard Austin alloweth the worship of Images, as good; which mthe true Austin doth note, as an abuse, and saith, the Church misliketh it. But Torrensis could not espy this sentence of the true Austin: the other of the bastard (as it is judged by, not nErasmus only, but oyour Divines of Lovan too,) phe setteth for a flower in his Austins confession. So that, if we compare the dealing of the Jesuit Torrensis, with Erasmus, in taking or refusing the books of S. Austin: Erasmus, as a plain and well meaning man that were to receive a sum of of money in angels, finding many bad ones, some light, some cracked, some soldered, some counterfeited amongst them, doth upon suspicion distrust a few good and is loth to take them, for fear of deceiving any whom he should pay them too. The Jesuit, as a younker, who could gain by them, if he might put them all away, doth mingle them one with an other, and prayeth men to take them: protesting, that if they be not all English angels, yet they be Flemish; at least, they are stamped with the image of an angel. And although some curious and precise men are loth to take them in part of lawful payment: yet there be good fellows that will permit and judge them to be English angels, and will *