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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. This neither doth he say, nor his scholars gather, nor the truth agree too. For neither was it written by any like S. Ambrose, if a rash and sottish cozener did forge it, which your supposal granteth: and he, with fother after him, allege it as written by S. Ambrose him self; whose it is manifest they would have it supposed, for the cowl's sake. So favourable are you in bearing with your selves, to take that, as certainly written by the Fathers, which certainly is none of theirs. So sharp against us, if we suspect any thing not to be theirs, which is: yea, though we suspect it not, but be falsely thought to have suspected it through other mens default. And thus have I cast out the beam out of our eye. Now, let us see the moat in yours. Your practises in corrupting the writings of the Fathers, are of two sorts: the one, before the art of printing was found; and the other, sithence. Examples of them both I will give in our present question, touching the supremacy. The former sort therefore is rife in the chiefest Doctor of your Church, I mean, gThomas of Aquine. Who writing against the errors of the Grecians, doth bring in S. Cyril, saying, that as Christ received power of his Father over every power, 1a power most full and ample, that all things should bow to him; 2so he did commit it most fully and amply both to Peter ⟨p. 204⟩& his successors: & 3Christ gave his own to none else, save to Peter, fully, but to him alone he gave it: and, the Apostles in the Gospels and Epistles have affirmed (in every doctrine) Peter and his Church to be in stead of God: and, 4to him, even to Peter, all do bow their head by the law of God, and the Princes of the world are obedient to him, even as to the Lord Jesus: & we, as being members, must cleave 5