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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. Although the words are not to be found now in those parts of Cyril's treasure, which are extant: yet that is not sufficient to prove, that either Thomas or some other forged them. For iMelchior Canus affirmeth that heretics have maimed that book, and have razed out all those things which therein pertained to the Popes authority. Which same thing to be done by them in the Commentaries of Theophylact upon John: the Catholics have found, and showed.
Hart. Although the wordes are not to be found now in those partes of Cyrils treasure, which are extant: yet that is not sufficient to proue, that either Thomas or some other forged them. For iMelchior Canus affirmeth that heretikes haue maimed that booke, and haue razed out all those things which therin pertained to the Popes authoritie. Which same thing to be done by them in the Commentaries of Theophylact vpon Iohn: the Catholikes haue found, and shewed.
- iLocor. Theologicor. lib. 6. cap. 5.
Rainoldes. Me thinks, you and Canus deal against us, as kthe men of Doryla did against Flaccus. Whom when they accused out of their public records, and their records were called for: they said that they were robbed of them upon the way, by, I know not what shepherds. You accuse us, that we deny the Pope his right of the supremacy. The records, by which you prove it his right, are the words of Cyril. Cyril's words are called for, that they may be seen. You say, they are not extant: you are robbed of them, by, I know not what heretics. Whereon to put a greater likelihood, you say further, that heretics have done an other robbery in Theophylact, as they are charged by Catholics. And this do you say: but you say it only: you bring no proof, you name no witness, you show no token of it. If such accusations may make a man guilty: who shall be innocent? He that should have dealt-among the