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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. But the circumstance of the place doth rather import it to be the very same. For, the Council saith, that Cyril hath these words, explanans epistolans ad profanos, where he expoundeth the epistle to profane men. And what meant they, by this epistle ad profanos, to profane men?
Rainoldes. But the circumstance of the place doth rather import it to be the very same. For, the Councell saith, that Cyrill hath these wordes, explanans epistolans ad profanos, where he expoundeth the epistle to profane men. And what meant they, by this epistle ad profanos, to profane men?
Hart. How can I tell what they meant, when that book of Cyril (whereof they speak) is lost?
Hart. How can I tell what they meant, when that booke of Cyrill (whereof they speake) is lost?
Rainoldes. It should be, the epistle ad Romanos, to the Romans: [1 Romanos] made [2 profanos] by the printers error: ⟨p. 107⟩unless he did it of purpose, to show, what now the Romans be: or some corrector changed it, least we by this circumstance should find the place of Cyril. For, this [where he expoundeth the epistle to the Romans] is a great argument, that the Council meant the place in the twelfth book: where Cyril doth handle such points of that epistle as concerned the matter that he had in hand. Which that he should do again, in the same work, with the same sentence, touching the same matter: they who know Cyril, will not think it likely. The less, because it is an usual thing with the Grecians, to divide books otherwise then the Latins do. As, in the Greek testament, the gospel of S. Mark hath more then forty chapters, which hath not twenty in the Latin: and yet notwithstanding the Latin hath the whole, as well as the Greek. Which is the more likely to have been the difference between the Greek Cyril, alleged by the Council, and our Latin Cyril translated out of Greek, because that our Latin hath also other sentences in the tenth book, which are alleged