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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. And it is as truly said by the Orators: Nothing is done so evil, but with fair colours a man may defend it. The Pope sent for Manutius to print the Fathers corrected; he appointed four Cardinals to see the work done; Cardinal Borromaus had singular care of Cyprian; copies very ancient, ⟨p. 213⟩men very learned, exquisite diligence used in it. This is it, which maketh me the more suspect it: the diligence was too exquisite. *When a petty-captain, whom Scipio did punish for that he was not in the field, said, that he remained in the camp to keep it: I love not them (quoth Scipio) that are too diligent. The camp was too well kept by the petty-captain. The Cardinals care of Cyprian might have the like fault. Manutius xhim self writeth, that his whole charge of printing books at Rome pertaineth 1to the dignity of the Popes See. I fear me, this dignity did dazzle much their eyes, who perused copies to correct the Fathers. The purpose of the Pope was (as yhe declareth) to have them so corrected, that there should remain no spot, which might infect the minds of the simple 2with the show of false doctrine. Whereby, if it be weighed what [false doctrine] signifieth in the court of Rome, a man may guess easily how they did correct them. Chiefly, sith they have not showed where they found those words of [one chair] and [primacy given unto Peter:] as zothers use to do in new corrections of authors. Which yet I will not condemn as a token of a guilty conscience. It may be that they found them in one or other bad copy. For such they followed some, as it appeareth by Pamelius: who, in sundry places correcteth the Roman print, and that justly. But Pamelius found them in a written copy of the Cambron-abbey, the best (he saith) of all his copies: wherein he found also the words which Gratian hath of cleaving to the chair of Peter: and so