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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. If you account this to be treason against the Lord, and do attaint us of it: You must attaint him self of it, who by his word hath brought us to it. For S. Paul comparing the church unto a body, to show the sundry gifts of Christians, and in their sundry gifts their several duties by the similitude of members, doth mention a head amongst them: cThe e•e cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee, nor the head to the feet, I have no need of you. Here the name of head must by all likelihood be meant of the Pastor in respect of the flock. But it cannot be meant of Christ. For he may say to us, I have no need of you: and so he willeth us also d(when we shall have done all things that are commanded us) to say, we are unprofitable servants. It must be meant therefore of Peter in respect of the rest of the Apostles, and by consequent of the Pope in respect of all Bishops.
Hart. If you account this to be treason against the Lord, and do attaint vs of it: You must attaint him selfe of it, who by his word hath brought vs to it. For S. Paule comparing the church vnto a body, to shew the sundry giftes of Christians, and in their sundry giftes their seuerall dueties by the similitude of members, doth mention a head amongst them: cThe e•e cannot say vnto the hand, I haue no neede of thee, nor the head to the feete, I haue no neede of you. Here the name of head must by al likelyhood bee meant of the Pastor in respect of the flock. But it cannot be meant of Christ. For he may say to vs, I haue no neede of you: and so he willeth vs also d(when we shal haue done all things that are cōmanded vs) to say, we are vnprofitable seruants. It must be meant therefore of Peter in respect of the rest of the Apostles, and by consequent of the Pope in respect of all Bishops.