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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. The bare name of primacy is not enough to prove it. But some by that name have meant a supremacy. And surely, the preeminence with excellent grace, which Austin giveth Peter, doth note a higher primacy, then either of order, or calling, or time: though it with all too.
Hart. The bare name of primacie is not enough to prooue it. But some by that name haue meant a supremacie. And surely, the preeminence with excellent grace, which Austin giueth Peter, doth note a higher primacie, then either of order, or calling, or time: though it with all too.
Rainoldes. It doth so, I grant. And I noted that, in the third prerogative which the Fathers give him: namely, principality. For cAustin, having joined his primacy and preeminence with excellent grace together, doth term them both, in one, 8the principality of the Apostleship. Which if some have meant by the name of primacy, as perhaps they have: they ⟨p. 223⟩might, because the word is borrowed often times from the proper signification of the first in order, to signify the chief in quality. And so, when fAustin saith, that Peter was 9a man by nature; a Christian by grace; by more abundant grace, an Apostle of Christ, yea, the first Apostle: by, the first Apostle, he meant the chief Apostle; the principality, by the primacy. But this principality of the Apostleship, this preeminence of the primacy with grace so excellent and abundant, cometh no nearer unto your supremacy then did the primacy of order. For, to be chief in grace, is one thing: and, to be chief in power, an other.