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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. Equal power (I grant) in respect of the Apostleship, but not of pastoral charge. For Peter was over them in that, even as the Pope is over Bishops. And so kwe do expound the words of S. Cyprian, S. Jerome, S. Chrysostom, and other of the Fathers: who give equal power to the Apostles with Peter.
Hart. Equall power (I graunt) in respect of the Apostleship, but not of pastoral charge. For Peter was ouer thē in that, euen as the Pope is ouer Bishops. And so kwe do expound the words of S. Cyprian, S. Ierom, S. Chrysostome, and other of the Fathers: who giue equall power to the Apostles with Peter.
- kSraplet. print. dectrin. lib. 6. cap. 7. & 14. &c.Sraplet. prin•. dectrin. lib. 6. cap. 7. & 14. &c.
Rainoldes. Yet more of these Coleworts? I have proved lalready that Peters pastoral charge, and his Apostleship, is all one: and therefore, if they were equal to him in the Apostleship, the were in pastoral charge too. But if no other reason will put you to silence: the Popes own authority may force you to it here. For, in the Cyprian set forth by him at Rome, mhe noteth it to be considered, that, whereas Cyprian saith, The rest of the Apostles had equal power with Peter, this must be understood *of the equality of Apostleship, which ceased when the Apostles died, and passed not over unto Bishops. The drift of which note implieth a distinction of Apostles, and Bishops: that it is not with Bishops in respect of the Pope, as it was with the Apostles in respect of Peter. And that doth carry with it a check of your opinion: which maketh the Apostles underlings to Peter, as Bishops to the Pope.