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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. The Pope will have himself to be meant by them, as the vicar of Christ: and so they do belong to him. Though they belong also to Christ: which we deny not. For thus saith the Pope. Of the Church, which is one, there is one body, and 1one head, not two heads, as a monster, namely Christ and Christs vicar Peter, and Peters successor: sith the Lord saith to Peter himself, Feed my sheep: my sheep, saith he, in general, not in particular these or these: whereby he is understood to have committed all to him. Whether they be therefore Grecians or others, who say that they are not committed to Peter and to his successors: they must needs confess them selves not to be of the sheep of Christ: 2Sith the Lord saith in John, that there is one fold and one Pastor. Which words, though they conclude the Pope to be that one Pastor: yet you must not take them as though the Pope meant them of himself alone, but that they are verified first in Christ, then in Peter, lastly in himself. And so there continueth one Pastor by succession, even as the Church continueth one.
Hart. The Pope will haue himselfe to be meant by them, as the vicar of Christ: and so they doo belong to him. Though they belong also to Christ: which we deny not. For thus saith the Pope. Of the Church, which is one, there is one bodie, and 1one head, not two heades, as a monster, namely Christ and Christes vicar Peter, and Peters successor: sith the Lord saith to Peter himselfe, Feede my sheepe: my sheepe, saith he, in generall, not in particular these or these: whereby hee is vnderstood to haue committed all to him. Whether they bee therfore Grecians or others, who say that they are not committed to Peter and to his successors: they must needes confesse them selues not to bee of the sheepe of Christ: 2Sith the Lord saith in Iohn, that there is one folde and one Pastor. Which wordes, though they conclude the Pope to bée that one Pastor: yet you must not take them as though the Pope meant them of himselfe alone, but that they are verified first in Christ, then in Peter, lastly in himselfe. And so there continueth one Pastor by succession, euen as the Church continueth one.