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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. You speak as though we named the Pope, Christs successor: which we are far from. For we know that Priests after the order of Aaron had therefore successors, qbecause they were not suffered to endure by reason of death. But Christ endureth ever, as being a Priest after the order of Melchizedek: and so hath no successors. We name S. Peter, Christs vicar: the Pope Christs vicar, and successor of Peter: but neither Peter, nor the Pope, successor of Christ.
Hart. You speake as though we named the Pope, Christes successor: which we are farre from. For we know that Priestes after the order of Aaron had therefore successors, qbecause they were not suffered to endure by reason of death. But Christ endureth euer, as being a Priest after the order of Melchisedech: and so hath no successors. We name S. Peter, Christes vicar: the Pope Christes vicar, and successor of Peter: but neither Peter, nor the Pope, successor of Christ.
- qHeb. 7.2•.
Rainoldes. If it be as you say, then raze out for shame that profane speech out of your rsacred Ceremonies of the Church of Rome: *Christ did first name and ordain Peter, his successor, saying to him, Feed my sheep: and in the same sort did Peter also name Clemens. But sith you acknowledge that Christ is one Pastor, and yet hath no successor: you have given over the fortress of that which you meant to seize on by those words of Christ, that there should be one flock, one Pastor. For where as you said that this sovereign Pastor must & doth continue one by succession, in Peter, and the Pope: you confess now, that without succession he doth continue one in person, even Christ,