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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Now, to come from these lesser unto the greater points in Leo, I know, if a man list to be contentious, it is an easy matter to say somewhat probably for the defence of his words. Yea though he had named Peter, not only my Lord, but (as qThomas did our Saviour) My Lord & my God. It is a desperate cause that will admit no colour. The 2Stews of Rome have found patrons, and sthat which is worse then Stews. The theathens called Domitian, Our Lord God the Emperor. A uCanonist saith of the Pope, Our Lord God the Pope. Blasphemous speeches both: yet a quarreller might allege in defence of them, xI have said, ye are Gods. But the very yheathens, by the light of nature misliked the one, as insolent: neither have I read any Papist, no nor Jesuit, that durst defend the other. It was a common practise amongst the young students of our Universities in the time of the Dunses, (and is yet amongst too many, whom spots of Dunsery have stained,) that if in disputation they were brought to an inconvenience, were it never so absurd: they would have a distinction, though void of brain and sense, yet a distinction to maintain it. If a man will be perverse, it is no mastery to do it. But as za wise and learned man doth say of them, that they are base wits which are so affected, whereas ingenuous minds & natures well given, will rather seek how true that is which ⟨p. 47⟩they hold, then how they may defend it, making greater price of verity then victory: so I may say (yea much more in matters of religion, of faith, of life eternal) a Christian wit, and godly mind will search and weigh rather, what should be said truly, then what may be said probably, or colourably at the lest. And I wish, if it had been the good will of God, master Campian had had the grace in the Tower-conference to have aimed at this mark: rather in sincerity to have sought the truth, then with shifts and cavils the maintenance of his cause and credit. But though he were froward, and did shut his eyes against the beams of the light: yet do you not so for Gods sake, master Hart, in this conference of ours. Be content to open your mind to his grace, who