A10345:794
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Rainoldes. Then if the same words be meant of all Popes, every Pope must first be turned away from Christ, that he may be converted after: and therefore every Pope must deny Christ. If I should say so: some would be angry with me. But you may say what you list.
Rainoldes. Then if the same wordes be meant of al Popes, euerie Pope must first be turned away from Christ, that he may be conuerted after: and therfore euerie Pope must deny Christ. If I should say so: some would be angrie with me. But you may say what you list.
Hart. This is such a reason, as that, (which hath been made too,) that if the words, gThou art Peter, concern Peters successor, then the words, hSatan, thou art an offence to me, must concern him also, because they were spoken by Christ to Peter both. But, as iFather Robert answereth to that, so do I to this, that the reason followeth not. For certain things (saith he) are spoken to Peter for himself alone; certain for himself, and for all Christians; certain for himself, and for his successors. This is plainly gathered by the divers reason and consideration, whereon they are spoken to him. For those things which are spoken to him as one of the faithful, are understood to be spoken unto all the faithful: as, kif thy brother trespass against thee. Those things which are spoken in some respect of his own person, are spoken unto him alone: as, lthou shalt deny me thrice. Those things which are spoken in regard of his pastoral duty, are spoken unto all pastors: as m