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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. My self was not present at the disputations, but I have read them 1written: and that (least you suspect the writer as partial) by a favourer of yours, who was present, as he saith, at the whole action. And (I do affirm it in singleness of heart, as before the Lord: neither do I doubt but all who have the wisdom to discern spirits will see the same, if they peruse them:) he sought in such sort to maintain the credit of his cause or person, as though he had set nothing more before his eyes, then to persuade his *proselytes, that nothing could be brought against him, but he would show it made for him. I would not say so much unless I knew it by his fruits. For, to pass over his often glossing against the text, and facing out of places which pressed ⟨p. 48⟩him most forcibly: things alleged out of the dCouncils, of the eFathers, of fothers, which by the judgements of your gown doctors, have that sense wherein we city them, he by shifts and cavils would turn their necks clean about, and wrest them unto his side: which argued more wit then trueth, and sophistry then sincerity. But to leave him to the Lords judgement, and come unto your self: you neither seek for shifts (you say) to darken the trueth, nor love the praise of men more then the praise of God. I pray God your deeds be not as plain to prove you do it, as the reason which you add to prove you do it not, is weak. For what although it were a madness to do it? Many things are done which mad men scarce would do, and yet they that do them do think themselves well in their wits, as hthe Donatists did, who adventured their lives in most desperate manner for the defence of their error, and maintenance of their credit: yea they offered themselves to the sword, the fire, the water, seeking for death as for a treasure, that they might die (they thought) Martyrs. But whether you do set the praise of men at that price, I leave it to your own conscience. That you seek for shifts, the thing it self doth cry. For your very answer in the defence of Leo, touching unity of will, not unity of substance, on these words of his, that