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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Hart. As though a right faith were no stronger fence against assaults of the Devil, then is a shield of paper against poisoned shot. S. Paul thought not so, rwho in the armour of a Christian exhorteth us above all things to take the shield of faith.
Hart. As though a right faith were no stronger fense against assaultes of the Deuill, then is a shield of paper against poisoned shot. S. Paule thought not so, rwho in the armour of a Christian exhorteth vs aboue all things to take the shield of faith.
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Rainoldes. S. Paul meaneth not the same by [faith] that you do. For he addeth of that shield, that we may quench all the fiery darts of *the wicked (that is to say, of the devil) with it. But a right opinion in matters of faith cannot quench them all: as it is plain by 2Judas, or by Pope John. Therefore, he meaneth by [the shield of faith] a lively Christian faith, which God doth give to his elect, and to them only; tby which we overcome the devil, and all his forces, and enter into heaven. Howbeit, I deny not, that a right opinion in matters of faith is stronger then paper against some darts of Satan, to wit, against errors. But to be preserved safe from these darts, is not enough to life: neither do all of them give mortal wounds. The darts, whereof I spake, are more sharp, & deadly. Whom they wound, they kill. Against the which kind, if Christ had armed Peter with such a faith as you imagine, when Satan desired to sift him as wheat: it is profane to think it, but it followeth of your fancy, that he armed him with (as it were) a paper-shield against poisoned shot. For, as against this shot a shield of paper cannot preserve our temporal life: so a right opinion in matters of faith could not save him to life eternal from those darts.