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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. If you do so, I yield. For one out of the scripture, as good with me, as a thousand.
Rainoldes. If you do so, I yéeld. For one out of the scripture, as good with me, as a thousand.
Hart. You must observe then, 1that the scripture noteth four kinds of men, who by teaching the folk that are named Christians, do either lead them, or mislead them, that is, do either guide them in the right way, or seduce them from it. The first of them, Pastors; the second, Hirelings; the third, Thieves; and the fourth, Wolves. All whom Christ hath showed almost in one place together. For in S. yJohns gospel he saith of the thief: He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climeth up an other way, he is a thief and a robber. Of the pastor he saith; But he that entereth by the door, is the pastor of the sheep. And a little after, I am (saith he) the door. And anon, making a subdivision of the pastor into his members, he showeth that a pastor is of two sorts, the one, good; the other, an hireling. The good pastor (saith he) doth give his life for his sheep. But an hireling, and he which is not the pastor, that is, which deserveth not the name of a pastor, because he loveth ⟨p. 327⟩more the goods of the world then the sheep (saith zGregory the great) seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth. He is a thief therefore who climeth up an other way: that is (as aCyprian writeth) who succeeding no man is ordained of him self, not of them who entered by Christ, that is, not of Christ. He is a pastor, who entereth in by the door, & loveth the sheep: that is (as