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Certe[n] godly, learned, and comfortable conferences, between the two reverend fathers, and holy martyrs…Certe[n] godly, learned, and comfortable conferences, betwene the two reuerende fathers, and holye martyrs…
Certe[n] godly, learned, and comfortable conferences, between the two reverend fathers, and holy martyrs of Christ, D. Nicolas Ridley late Bishop of London, and M. Hugh Latimer sometime Bishop of Worcester, during the time of their imprisonments. Whereunto is added. A treatise against the error of transubstantiation, made by the said reverend father D. Nicolas Ridley. M.D.LVI.Certe[n] godly, learned, and comfortable conferences, betwene the two reuerende fathers, and holye martyrs of Christe, D. Nicolas Rydley late Bysshoppe of London, and M. Hughe Latymer sometyme Bysshoppe of Worcester, during the tyme of their emprysonmentes. Whereunto is added. A treatise agaynst the errour of transubstantiation, made by the sayd reuerende father D. Nicolas Rydley. M.D.LVI.
Strasbourg: printed by the heirs of W. Rihel, 1556
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The truth of this question truly tried out and agreed upon / no doubt shall cease the controversy in all the rest. For if it be Christs own natural body / borne of the virgin / then assuredly (seeing that all learned men in England / (so far as I know) both new and old / grant there to be but one substance / then I say / they must needs grant Transubstantiation / that is a change of the substance of bread into the substance of Christs body: then also they must grant the carnal and corporal presence of Christs body: then must the sacrament be adored with the honour due unto Christ himself / for the unity of the two natures in one person: then if the priest do offer the sacrament / he doeth offer in deed Christ himself: and finally the murderer / the adulterer / or wicked man / receiving the Sacrament / must needs there receive also the ⟨p. 42⟩natural substance of Christs own blessed body / both / flesh and blood.
The treuth of this question truelye tried out and agreed vpon / no doubte shall cease the controuersie in all the reaste. For if it bee Christes owne naturall bodie / borne of the virgine / then assuredlie (seynge that all learned men in Englande / (so farre as I knowe) both newe and olde / graunt there to be but one substance / then I say / they must nedes graunt Transubstantiation / that is a change of the substance of breade into the substance of Christes bodie: then also they must graunt the carnall and corporall presence of Christes bodie: then must the sacramēt be adored with the honour due vnto Christ himselfe / for the vnitie of the two natures in one person: then if the prieste do offre the sacrament / he doeth offre in deede Christ himselfe: and finallye the murtherer / the adulterer / or wicked mā / receiuinge the Sacrament / must needes there receiue also the ⟨p. 42⟩naturall substaunce of Christes owne blessed bodye / both / fleash and bloude.
Now on the other side / if after the truth shall be truly tried out / it be found / that the substance of bread / is the material substance of the sacrament (although for the change of the use / office / and dignity of the bread / the bread in deed sacramentally is changed into the body of Christ / as the water in Baptism is sacramentally changed into the fountain of regeneration / and yet the material substance thereof remaineth all one as was before) if (I say) the true solution of that former question / whereupon all these controversies do hang / be / that the natural substance of bread / is the material substance in the holy sacrament of Christs blessed body: then must it follow of that former proposition confessed of all that be named to be learned / (so far as I know) in England / which is / that there is but one material substance in the sacrament of the body / and one only likewise in the sacrament of the blood: that there is no such thing in deed / and in truth / as they call transubstantiation (for the substance of bread remaineth still in the sacrament of the body) then also the natural substance of Christs humane nature which he took of the virgin Mary is in heaven / where it reigneth now in glory / and not here enclosed under the form of bread: then that godly honour which is due unto God the creator / and may not