Certe[n] godly, learned, and comfortable conferences, between the two reverend fathers, and holy martyrs…Certe[n] godly, learned, and comfortable conferences, betwene the two reuerende fathers, and holye martyrs…

Now on the other side / if after the truth shall be truly tried out / it be found / that the substance of bread / is the material substance of the sacrament (although for the change of the use / office / and dignity of the bread / the bread in deed sacramentally is changed into the body of Christ / as the water in Baptism is sacramentally changed into the fountain of regeneration / and yet the material substance thereof remaineth all one as was before) if (I say) the true solution of that former question / whereupon all these controversies do hang / be / that the natural substance of bread / is the material substance in the holy sacrament of Christs blessed body: then must it follow of that former proposition confessed of all that be named to be learned / (so far as I know) in England / which is / that there is but one material substance in the sacrament of the body / and one only likewise in the sacrament of the blood: that there is no such thing in deed / and in truth / as they call transubstantiation (for the substance of bread remaineth still in the sacrament of the body) then also the natural substance of Christs humane nature which he took of the virgin Mary is in heaven / where it reigneth now in glory / and not here enclosed under the form of bread: then that godly honour which is due unto God the creator / and may not ⟨image 43⟩be done to the creature / without Idolatry and sacrilege / is not be done to the holy Sacrament / then also the wicked (I mean) the impenitent murderer / adulterer / or such like do not receive the natural substance of the blessed body and blood of Christ: finally then doth follow that Christs blessed body and blood which was once only offered / and shed upon the cross / being available for the since of all the world / is offered up no more in the natural substance thereof / neither by the priest nor any other thing.

Nowe on the other syde / if after the truthe shalbe truly tryed owte / it be fownd / that the substance of breade / is the materiall substance of the sacrament (althowgh for the chaunge of the vse / office / and dignitie of the bread / the bread in dede sacramentally is chaunged into the bodye of Christ / as the water in Baptisme is sacramentally chaunged into the fountayne of regeneracion / and yet the materiall substance therof remayneth all one as was before) yf (I saye) the trewe solutyon of that former question / wheruppon all these controuersies doo hange / be / that the naturall substāce of bread / is the materiall substance in the holie sacrament of Christes blessed bodye: then must it followe of that former proposition confessed of all that be named to be learned / (so farre as I knowe) in Englande / whiche is / that there is but one materiall substāce in the sacramente of the bodie / and one onelye lykewise in the sacrament of the bloud: that there is no such thing in deede / and in truth / as they call transubstantion (for the substance of breade remaineth styll in the sacrament of the bodie) then also the naturall substance of Christes humane nature which he tooke of the virgine Marie is in heauen / where it reigneth now in glory / and not here inclosed vnder the forme of breade: then that godlie honoure whiche is due vnto God the creator / and maye not