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The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wiseThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise
The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take great pleasure in the reading thereof. Translated out of French into English, by John Brooke of AsheThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take greate pleasure in the reading thereoff. Translated out of French into English, by Iohn Brooke of Ashe
London: printed by Thomas East, 1579
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Theophilus. I do greatly marvel of that Logic, which maketh such Syllogisms and conclusions: That sin is not pardoned in this world nor in the world to come. ⟨image 281⟩There is then some which is pardoned in the world to come: the which cannot be but in Purgatory. Wherefore there is a Purgatory. There is not a Sophister so ignorant, which ought not to know, that according to the rules of their Logic, one cannot draw a consequence whatsoever it be, of propositions altogether negatives. If then of negatives, a consequence negative is nothing 1worth, how shall the affirmative be good, such as you would here conclude? Why one you not conclude rather. This sin is not pardoned in this world nor in the world to come. It shall be then never pardoned, For if there be a pardon, it cannot be but in this world or in the other. The consequence after this manner should be good. For the Antecedent hath comprehended all the times and places to whom the sin may be pardoned. And after that sort doth Saint Mark expound it, of 2whom the gloss is more certain, then yours. For in stead of that that Saint Matthew hath said, neither in this world nor in the other, he hath said: never. Wherein it appeareth that those two propositions are equivalent and of equality. That sin is not pardoned neither in this world, nor in the other: and that sin is never 3pardoned. Furthermore, you do confess, that it must be that the fault of sin, the which maketh man subject to damnation, be already pardoned in this world, & that there remaineth but the pain, the which he must bear and suffer in Purgatory. For you do put none other difference, 4between the souls of the blessed which are already at rest, and those of Purgatory, and the damned, but that the Saints which are already in Paradise, are pardoned of pain and fault. Those which are in Purgatory, are not pardoned but of the fault, but they must hear and suffer the pain due to sin, until such time as they have satisfied for it, and that they be perfectly purged. But yet nevertheless because that the fault is pardoned them, their pain is not to them eternal, as the same of the damned, because that the fault of damnation is ta