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The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wiseThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise
The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take great pleasure in the reading thereof. Translated out of French into English, by John Brooke of AsheThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take greate pleasure in the reading thereoff. Translated out of French into English, by Iohn Brooke of Ashe
London: printed by Thomas East, 1579
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
or else it must be that they find out an other third world, even as they have found out a temporal eternity, to the which they do give an end: and an eternal 1fire, which is temporal, not perdurable. But although it should be so, that there should be in the world to come some forgiveness of sins, it followeth not therefore, that it is necessary to have there a Purgatory. Now first of all there is no certain witness that there is any remission and forgiveness after this life, but a certain humane conjecture and presumption. Then if that proposition be builded upon humane conjecture and presumption, yet that which affirmeth the Purgatory is best, sith that the same is none other thing but a conjecture and presumption, builded upon other conjectures and presumptions. For put the case that there should be forgiveness in the other life, could it not be in any other place rather then in Purgatory? or at an other time, then you do there limit? Could it not have been given, either by and by after that one is dead, or delayed until the latter judgement? But which of the ancientest doctors of the church is there, that ever hath expounded that place in such sense as thou takest it? Chrysostom expoundeth it after this 2manner: Sith that that sin is not venial unto you, you shall be grievously punished both in this life and in the other. He meaneth none other thing by those words, but that the Jews which resisted the holy Ghost, shall not be only punished in this world, for to be chastised and corrected 3as the Corinthians were: or only in the other world, as the rich man was: but they shall be here and ⟨p. 273⟩there, as those of Sodom and Gomorra. For they were 4destroyed by the Romans, and have not escaped eternal damnation. There is nothing in this exposition which can serve you. Those which are of an opinion, y• the s••les do abide uncertain of their salvation, or damnation, and that they may yet profit or impair between this and the great judgement: In like manner those which do esteem and think that the gospel shall be preached unto the souls of the dead, to which it hath not been here declared, shall they not have more colour here to build their reasons and arguments, then you for your Purgatory?