Hillarius. Behold yet to confirm better my purpose I do not doubt for my part, but that that Character is the mark, wherewith is marked the conscience of those 1which shall give heed unto spirits of error and devilish doctrine, and which are Apostates of the faith, according to the prophecy of saint Paul. That is the mark of the great whore of Babylon without which one cannot sell 2nor buy, nor have any place in the Popish Church. That is a mark clean contrary, unto that which the Angel printed in the foreheads of the elect of God. Now sith 3that the Apostles of Jesus Christ, and the true bishops and priests, which by them were ordained, have not had that Cautor that is to say Mark (I had thought to have said Character) I am not abashed, if they have not such power in the other world, as the Pope hath in the same and in this. But it is an other thing of him and of his which do depart out of this world, with this Cauter (I do beguile my self always) I do say 4with that Char••ter, which they do bear always with them. Wherefore they ought to have no lesser power there then here. And y• same I will prove by y• example of Friar Rogers a C•rdelier, which is recited in the book of the conformities of saint Francis. It is there written, that after that he was dead, he appeared unto a certain woman, who confessed unto him all her sins, & he gave her absolution. If h• being dead had the power to come to hear the confession of the living, and to absolve them, wherefore shall not his other companions being dead have, and chiefly the Popes and Bishops, who have ordained them and confirmed them, as much power ⟨image 287⟩among the dead? Furthermore, if according to the witness of your Doctors, others may satisfy for us, not only during our life, but also after that we be dead, wherefore 5cannot we after that we be dead satisfy for our selves, and to cause Masses to be song in Purgatory, sith that there are so many Priest's Popes, and Bishops for to do it? What thinkest thou Thomas.
Hillarius. Beholde yet to confirme better my purpose I do not doubt for my parte, but that that Character is the marke, wherewith is marked the conscience of those 1which shall giue héede vnto spirits of errour and deuilish doctrine, and which are Apostates of the faith, according to the prophecie of saint Paul. That is the marke of the great whore of Babylon without which one cannot sell 2nor buy, nor haue any place in the Popish Church. That is a marke cleane contrary, vnto that which the Angell printed in the foreheads of the elect of God. Nowe sith 3that the Apostles of Iesus Christ, and the true bishoppes and priests, which by them were ordayned, haue not had that Cautor that is to say Marke (I had thought to haue said Charecter) I am not abashed, if they haue not such power in the other worlde, as the Pope hath in the same and in this. But it is an other thing of him and of his which do departe out of this worlde, with this Cauter (I doe beguile my selfe alwayes) I doe say 4with that Char••ter, which they do beare alwayes with them. Wherfore they ought to haue no lesser power there then here. And y• same I wil proue by y• example of Frier Rogers a C•rdelier, which is recyted in the booke of the conformities of saint Fraunces. It is there written, that after that he was deade, he appeared vnto a certeine woman, who confessed vnto him all hir sinnes, & hée gaue hir obsolution. If h• being deade had the power to come to heare the confession of the lyuing, and to absolue them, wherefore shall not his other compagnions béeinge deade haue, and chiefely the Popes and Byshoppes, who haue ordained them and confirmed them, as much power ⟨image 287⟩among the dead? Furthermore, if according to the witnesse of your Doctors, others may satisfie for vs, not onely during our lyfe, but also after yt we be dead, wherfore 5cannot we after that we be dead satisfie for our selues, and to cause Masses to be song in Purgatory, sith that there are so many Priest's Popes, and Bishops for to doe it? What thinkest thou Thomas.
- 1The burning of the conscience 1. T••oth, 4. •. 2.The burning of the consience 1. T••oth, 4. •. 2.
- 2The mark of the whore. Apoc. 13. c. 8The marke of the vvhore. Apoc. 13. c. 8
- 3Apoc. 7. •, 4
- 4The example of Fryer Roger.
- 5Tho. dist. •5 q. 2. & dist. 20 q. •. ar. 3. & dist. 4•. q. 4. ar. 1.