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The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wiseThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise
The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take great pleasure in the reading thereof. Translated out of French into English, by John Brooke of AsheThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take greate pleasure in the reading thereoff. Translated out of French into English, by Iohn Brooke of Ashe
London: printed by Thomas East, 1579
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Eusebius. Because for that they are sinners as others are and subject unto one judgement they are of the same condition as the others, and they cannot give them that whereof they themselves have need, and cannot have it for them, Furthermore, as soon as they are dead, they are deprived from that office.
Eusebius. Bicause for that they are sinners as others are and subiect vnto one iudgement they are of the same condition as the others, and they cannot giue them that whereoff they themselues haue néede, and cannot haue it for them, Furthermore, as soone as they are dead, they are depriued from that office.
Hillarius. I have two reasons for to beat down thy answer: The first is that I am abashed, that the Pope and his do attribute unto themselves the power to pardon all sins, how great and wicked soever they be, yea, all Sodomy, and if need he, the sin against the holy Ghost, notwithstanding that it be irr•missible, and do give bul• and pardons for all, so that one do bring them money, and that they have also power to pardon the ve••all sins in Purgatory. For according to your own doctrine, none are there detained and kept but for the venial sins. For the mortal sins, have no purgation in the other world, but they must be punished in hell. And as to that that thou sayest, that they are sinners, and subject to the same pains in Purgatory, so are they in this world, and leave not off therefore to absolve themselves the one to the other, although they should have killed Father and Mother: and so make themselves 1as white as the Colliers. Furthermore, you do call the impression of your Cream and holy Oil with which you do anoint the Priests, when they do take their orders, Character indelibilis, that is to say, a mark and a sign which cannot be put out nor defaced. If it be so, the Priests do abide and remain always Priests, although they be dead. For you will not confess, that that impression and mark is only done unto the body: But you do affirm, that it penetrateth and pierceth even to the soul: of which it can never be defaced nor abolished, yet nevertheless thou knowest better then I.