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The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wiseThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise
The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take great pleasure in the reading thereof. Translated out of French into English, by John Brooke of AsheThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take greate pleasure in the reading thereoff. Translated out of French into English, by Iohn Brooke of Ashe
London: printed by Thomas East, 1579
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Theophilus. And so by that means, Jesus Christ shall be a Saviour neither of the living nor of the dead: & the merit of his death and passion, shall save neither the one nor the other, but the living shall save themselves, during their life? and after their death, others that shall be then alive, shall save them especially the Priests and Monks, By that means, we have many saviours, and men should never be certain nor sure of their salvation, neither before their death nor afterwards, which is a thing altogether contrary to the doctrine of the scriptures.
Theophilus. And so by that meanes, Iesus Christe shalbe a Sauiour neither of the lyuing nor of the dead: & the merite of his death and passion, shall saue neither the one nor the other, but the lyuing shall saue themselues, during their life? and after their death, others that shalbe thē alyue, shal saue them especially the Priestes and Moonks, By that meanes, we haue many sauiours, and men should neuer be certaine nor sure of their saluation, neither before their death nor afterwards, whiche is a thing altogether contrarie to the doctrine of the scriptures.
Eusebius. And if I would maintain, that those which are in hell, can be somewhat delivered from the pains thereof, either by the prayers and good deeds of the living, or 1because of the good deeds that they themselves have done during their life, that should be a strange thing unto thee. What wouldest thou answer to that? Have we not the witness of a great many histories and good doctors, worthy to be believed, which certify us, how that Saint Gregory delivered Traianus the Emperor from the pains 2of hell, who notwithstanding did put to death many of the Christians, and namely Saint Ignatius the disciple of S. John 3the Evangelist. It is in like manner written in the life of the fathers, that Saint Machaire delivered a priest being a Panim, who affirmed unto him that he was damned. And in the life of saint Brandon we read that he did see Judas, which walked by the meadows, of whom he asked the cause, wherefore he was not in hell: who answered