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The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wiseThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise
The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take great pleasure in the reading thereof. Translated out of French into English, by John Brooke of AsheThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take greate pleasure in the reading thereoff. Translated out of French into English, by Iohn Brooke of Ashe
London: printed by Thomas East, 1579
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Theophilus. In what place then are those souls? Thou wilt not say that they are 1in the Limb? For according to your own doctrine that same of the fathers is empty, and as touching the other there goeth none thither but the little children that be borne dead, for whom you do no more pray, then for the damned? For you hope no more that they can come out from thence, […] more than tho damned can come from hell. Wherefore there resteth no more but Purgatory. Now 2if those souls are in Purgatory, it must be that they have some solace, and some light, as in Paradise: or otherwise, wherefore do they pray, that those souls do not fall into the obscure and dark places, if they be there already? We will yet come again unto my first matter: and thou shalt be compelled to confess that Paradise and Purgatory is all one thing: Or that you do pray for the Saints and Saints of Paradise, and for those which are at rest: or at the leastwise, that the souls which are already tormented in Purgatory, may yet fall more deeper into hell & y• dark places. And so by that reason, they are yet in danger of damnation, which is contrary to ⟨image 104⟩your own doctrine.
Theophilus. In what place then are those soules? Thou wylt not saye that they are 1in the Limbe? For according to your owne doctrine that same of the fathers is emptie, and as touching the other there goeth none thether but the little children that bée borne dead, for whom you doe no more praye, then for the dampned? For you hope no more that they can come out from thence, 〈…〉 more thē tho dampned can come from hel. Wherefore there resteth no more but Purgatory. Nowe 2if those soules are in Purgatorye, it muste bée that they haue some solace, and some lyght, as in Paradise: or otherwise, wherefore doe they praye, that those soules doe not fall into the obscure and darke places, if they be there already? We will yet come againe vnto my first matter: and thou shalt be compelled to confesse that Paradise and Purgatory is all one thing: Or that you doe praye for the Saints and Saintes of Paradise, and for those which are at rest: or at the leastwise, that the soules which are already tormented in Purgatory, maye yet fall more déeper into hell & y darke places. And so by that reason, they are yet in daunger of dampnation, which is contrarye to