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The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wiseThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise
The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take great pleasure in the reading thereof. Translated out of French into English, by John Brooke of AsheThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take greate pleasure in the reading thereoff. Translated out of French into English, by Iohn Brooke of Ashe
London: printed by Thomas East, 1579
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Hillarius. I am greatly astonished, friend Theophilus, what reason you can find out of all reason: and what certainty you search, besides the word of God, which is only certain? What foundation shall you find in dreams? For all that that they say and do touching the dead, and all their doctrine, what other thing is it but dreams and lyings? which have neither spirit nor judgement. Is not that a Theology altogether come of the Paynims? for of all those things have they learned any one syllable of Jesus Christ? Wherefore, I would, sith that they will not follow but their own fantasy, the opinions of men, and of the Idolaters, and that they have no regard of the holy Scriptures, that they would not at the leastwise only follow the evil, but also the 1good, that they have taught. Plato that great and worthy Philosopher, hath set forth three kinds of righteousness: The one towards God: an other towards men, and the third towards the dead. But these here do neither regard God nor men ye be alive, but have converted all their care upon the dead: not for the love of them, but for the love of themselves. Wherefore you must not think, that they have done this, for any zeal of righteousness for to render unto them their duty.
Hillarius. I am greatly estonished, friēd Theophilus, what reason you can finde out of all reason: and what certeintie you search, besides the woord of God, which is onely certayne? What foundation shall you finde in dreames? For all that that they saye and do touching the dead, and all their doctrine, what other thing is it but dreames and lyinges? which haue neither spiryte nor iudgement. Is not that a Theology altogether come of the Panims? for of all those thinges haue they learned any one sillable of Iesus Christ? Wherfore, I would, sith that they will not followe but their owne fantasie, the opinions of men, and of the Idolaters, and that they haue no regarde of the holy Scriptures, that they would not at the leastwise onely followe the euyll, but also the 1good, that they haue taught. Plato that great and worthy Philosopher, hath set foorth thrée kindes of righteousnesse: The one towardes God: an other towardes men, and the thirde towards the dead. But these heere doo neither regard God nor men ye be aliue, but haue conuerted all their care vpon the dead: not for the loue of them, but for the loue of themselues. Wherefore you muste not thincke, that they haue done this, for any zeale of righteousnesse for to render vnto them their duetie.