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The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wiseThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise
The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take great pleasure in the reading thereof. Translated out of French into English, by John Brooke of AsheThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take greate pleasure in the reading thereoff. Translated out of French into English, by Iohn Brooke of Ashe
London: printed by Thomas East, 1579
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Theophilus. Therefore hath he begun in a lucky hour, yea a sithens y• time of Augustin, to forge the Purgatory: although y• then, it was not received nor allowed, as an article of faith, but they disputed only, as of an opinion, which hath some colour & show. For although y• S. Augustin moved y• question, & touched some thing y• matter, 1yet nevertheless he hath determined or concluded nothing for certain, but rather to y• contrary. He hath written, y• there were some which did think that there was a certain fire of Purgatory, & that the thing was not incredible. But yet nevertheless, he •urst not affirm it, but spake of it as of a thing doubtful and incertein: notwithstanding that he ••emeth to be of an opinion, that the prayers made for the ⟨p. 182⟩dead, did profit them. But when all shall be well considered, what witness or what example doth he allege out of the holy Scripture, either of the old or new testament, sufficient for to prove and confirm that doctrine? I• he show forth unto me y• custom of the ancient Church, & the traditions of the Apostles, I will demand upon the same the witness or example of the holy scripture, or of the primitive Church. For I am certain he shall not find it. It is then necessary, that we do come to the next age, as was the time of Tertullian, Ireneus and other like: and afterwards from 2thence unto the same of Cyprian. For I have already proved by their writings, that in those times they did not make such prayers for the dead, as they were after the time of Saint Augustin. For they did them not to the intent to help & succour the dead, but they directed them unto God only, for to give him praise & for to demand his grace & mercy towards the living: