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The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wiseThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise
The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take great pleasure in the reading thereof. Translated out of French into English, by John Brooke of AsheThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take greate pleasure in the reading thereoff. Translated out of French into English, by Iohn Brooke of Ashe
London: printed by Thomas East, 1579
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
For after that one once had begun to mingle the commemoration of the dead with that of Jesus Christ (for which only the supper is celebrated, not for sinful men, who have not redeemed us by their death) from one opinion and error, it is fallen into another, in such sort that men are fallen into such dreaming, that they have thought that y• supper, to the which those that were a live did communicate, did profit the dead, and that they might take it for them, and to their health & salvation, after the same manner as they did the other suffrages in their name.
For after that one once had begonne to myngle the commemoration of the dead with that of Iesus Christe (for which onely the supper is celebrated, not for sinfull men, who haue not redemed vs by their death) from one opinion and error, it is fallen into another, in suche sorte that men are fallen into such dreaming•, that they haue thought that y• supper, to the which those that were a lyue dyd cōmunicate, dyd profyt the dead, and that they might take it for them, and to their health & saluation, after the same manner as they dyd the other suffrages in theyr name.
Hillarius. If we will understand that which saint Paul hath written of the Corinthians, which 1baptised themselves for the dead, after the sense in which the ancients have taken it, we should have no less reason to excuse them, then those here. For if I may take the supper for an other man, wherefore may I not in like manner be baptised for him? I think that they will not grant we that, that one may be baptised for an other, and that 2that baptism doth profit him, and yet less to the dead then to the living.
Hillarius. If we will vnderstand that which saint Paul hath wrytten of the Corinthians, which