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The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wiseThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise
The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take great pleasure in the reading thereof. Translated out of French into English, by John Brooke of AsheThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take greate pleasure in the reading thereoff. Translated out of French into English, by Iohn Brooke of Ashe
London: printed by Thomas East, 1579
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Hillarius. If I may not then be baptised for the dead, whereto serveth or profiteth the supper that I shall take for them? For it hath not been more ordained for the dead then the baptism, but both of them were for the living, aswell the one as the other, sith that both of them are Sacraments, given unto the militant Church, and which is yet covered and wrapped in this flesh.
Hillarius. If I may not then be baptised for the dead, whereto serueth or profiteth the supper that I shall take for them? For it hath not bene more ordayned for the dead then the baptisme, but both of them were for the lyuing, aswell the one as the other, sith that both of them are Sacraments, giuen vnto the militant Church, and which is yet couered and wrapped in this flesh.
Theophilus. There is nothing more certain. And yet nevertheless behold how the one of the errors hath drawn the other after him, insomuch that they ⟨image 190⟩have begun to apply the supper, for to comfort the dead, and it seemeth that those for whom they do make commemoration, do no less participate, then those which do there communicate in their name. But yet they have not holden themselves to t•at, but are fallen into another error more importable, altogether to turn upside down and overthrow the institution of the supper, and have deformed it, 1insomuch that it seemeth nothing at all like to the communion that the Saints have with Jesus Christ, and amongst them, but it was altogether like unto an excommunication. For at the beginning, when that the Christians 2did begin to communicate at the supper for the dead, that was no less permitted to the lay people, and unto every one of the christians, as to the ministers of y• church, until such time as the supper hath taken the name of Mass, the which is not so ancient, as the Papists would affirm.