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The first part of the Christian instruction, and general so[m]me of the doctrine, contained…The firste parte of the Christian instruction, and generall so[m]me of the doctrine, conteyned…

Name: The first part of the Christian instruction, and general so[m]me of the doctrine, contained…
Author: Pierre Viret

The first part of the Christian instruction, and general so[m]me of the doctrine, contained in the holy Scriptures wherein the principal points of the religion are familiarly handled by dialogues, very necessary to be read of all Christians. Translated into English, by John Shute, according to the late copy set forth, by th'author Master Peter Viret. 1565. Overseen and perused, according to the order appointed, by the Queens majesties injunctions.The firste parte of the Christian instruction, and generall so[m]me of the doctrine, conteyned in the holy Scriptures wherein the principall pointes of the religion are familiarly handled by dialogues, very necessary to be read of all Christians. Translated into Englishe, by Iohn Shute, accordyng to the late copy set forth, by th'author Maister Peter Viret. 1565. Ouersene and perused, accordyng to the order appointed, by the Queenes maiesties iniunctions.

Pierre Viret 1511–1571London: printed by John Day, 1565London: printed by Iohn Day, 1565

[28], 191, [5] p. · 83k words · STC 24777 · ESTC S119198

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Dialogue 2 › ❧ The second Dialogue, entitled the waiting for the Councell, or t… › ¶ Of the hope that men may have of those Christian princes which d…: ¶ Of the hope that men may have of those Christian princes which do reign at this pre…Dialogue 2 › ❧ The second Dialogue, intituled the waiting for the Councell, or t… › ¶ Of the hope that men may haue of those Christian princes vvhich d…: ¶ Of the hope that men may haue of those Christian princes vvhich do reigne at this pre…

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¶ Of the hope that men may have of those Christian princes which do reign at this present for to reform the church by the mean of a general council: and of the negligence and want that is in that behalf, even in those churches which glory of the Gospel.

¶ Of the hope that men may haue of those Christian princes vvhich do reigne at this present for to reforme the church by the meane of a generall councell: and of the negligence and vvante that is in that behalfe, euen in those churches vvhich glory of the Gospell.

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T. Yet is there hope to remedy these things by the help of the Christian princes. D. I see no great hope in that behalf. For who be the Christian princes that may give order in this? if they be seduced by the Pope and his, that Antichrist will be served of them for to make him continually more strong: if they be well instructed in the doctrine of the Lord, and that they have a desire to reform the church according to the rule of his word, that Antichrist forthwith endeavoureth to stir up all those princes and nations that are abused by him to hinder so godly an enterprise. And when one prince will, an other will not. Wherefore, it will be a very long time before men may cause all the princes and other estates of the world, by whose means such assemblies ought to be made: to agree in one opinion, and to come together and to consent in one so holy a work. For we shall find in all these estates those same difficulties, lets and excuses, whereof we have already spoken. For there is ⟨p. 76⟩so great contempt of God and of his word, and so great negligence and carelessness in all estates, concerning those things that touch the honour of God, & the health of souls, and so great a burden of their own glory, and private profit, and their hearts so rooted in the earth, that they forget heaven, and can find at no time any leisure to labour in the work of the Lords house. T. That is a very great evil. D. We may easily judge what hope we shall have of a general reformation, by means of a general council, by the experience of those things which we daily see, in those places where God hath already given of his grace to princes & Magistrates: to lay their hands to his works: to begin some manner of reformation in his church. Let us begin with the best reformed church that may be found in christendom, and let us compare the form and order of it with that that was in the ancient church: I mean not of the most perfect that ever was, as of that of the Apostles, but of that church that was long after the Apostles time, what difference shall we find? T. I think we shall find very great difference. D. So great as we shall be ashamed to call a reformation, the reformation that we shall therein find, seeing the deformity that there yet doth rest: whereof every man complaineth, and yet no man can remedy it.

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Pierre Viret 1511–1571

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London

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John DayIohn Day

Year

1565

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[28], 191, [5] p.

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82,531

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STC 24777 · ESTC S119198

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432

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167

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The first part of the Christian instruction, and general so[m]me of the doctrine, contained…The firste parte of the Christian instruction, and generall so[m]me of the doctrine, conteyned…

¶ Of the hope that men may have of those Christian princes which do reign at this present for to reform the church by the mean of a general council: and of the negligence and want that is in that behalf, even in those churches which glory of the Gospel.

¶ Of the hope that men may haue of those Christian princes vvhich do reigne at this present for to reforme the church by the meane of a generall councell: and of the negligence and vvante that is in that behalfe, euen in those churches vvhich glory of the Gospell.

¶ Of the negligence and want that is in the ministers of the church, and generally in all other estates, whereby the reformation of the church is hindered.

¶ Of the negligence and vvante that is in the ministers of the church, and generally in all other estates, wherby the reformation of the church is hindred.

¶ Of the impeachments that men give one to an other in the reformation of the church: and of the punishment of God upon them for the same cause.

¶ Of the empeachmentes that men geue one to an other in the reformation of the church: and of the punyshment of God vpon them for the same cause.

¶ Of the difficulty that is in the world at this day, to assemble meet men for a lawful council, and of the example of the ancient Christians concerning their faith towards the doctrine of the Apostles.

¶ Of the difficultie that is in the vvorlde at this day, to assemble meete men for a lavvfull councell, and of the example of the auncient Christians concerning their fath tovvards the doctrine of the Apostles.

¶ Of the hindrance which the Christians do cause in the reformation of the church, more then all others, and of the end whereunto the suppostes of the popish church tend under the title and name of a Council.

¶ Of the hindraunce vvhich the Christians doe cause in the reformation of the church, more then all others, and of the ende vvhereunto the suppostes of the popishe church tend vnder the title and name of a Councell.

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Reformers309

Puritans1,782

Westminster Assembly24

Evangelicals36

¶ Of the hope that men may have of those Christian princes which do reign at this present for to reform the church by the mean of a general council: and of the negligence and want that is in that behalf, even in those churches which glory of the Gospel.

¶ Of the hope that men may haue of those Christian princes vvhich do reigne at this present for to reforme the church by the meane of a generall councell: and of the negligence and vvante that is in that behalfe, euen in those churches vvhich glory of the Gospell.

¶ Of the negligence and want that is in the ministers of the church, and generally in all other estates, whereby the reformation of the church is hindered.

¶ Of the negligence and vvante that is in the ministers of the church, and generally in all other estates, wherby the reformation of the church is hindred.

¶ Of the impeachments that men give one to an other in the reformation of the church: and of the punishment of God upon them for the same cause.

¶ Of the empeachmentes that men geue one to an other in the reformation of the church: and of the punyshment of God vpon them for the same cause.

¶ Of the difficulty that is in the world at this day, to assemble meet men for a lawful council, and of the example of the ancient Christians concerning their faith towards the doctrine of the Apostles.

¶ Of the difficultie that is in the vvorlde at this day, to assemble meete men for a lavvfull councell, and of the example of the auncient Christians concerning their fath tovvards the doctrine of the Apostles.

¶ Of the hindrance which the Christians do cause in the reformation of the church, more then all others, and of the end whereunto the suppostes of the popish church tend under the title and name of a Council.

¶ Of the hindraunce vvhich the Christians doe cause in the reformation of the church, more then all others, and of the ende vvhereunto the suppostes of the popishe church tend vnder the title and name of a Councell.

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