A14463:1230
A14463:1230
A Christian instruction, containing the law and the Gospel Also a summary of the principal points of the Christian faith and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certain dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Province. Translated by I.S. Seen and allowed according to the Queens Majesties injunctions.A Christian instruction, conteyning the law and the Gospell Also a summarie of the principall poyntes of the Christian fayth and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certayne dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Prouince. Translated by I.S. Seene and allowed according to the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions.
London: printed by Henry Bynneman? for Abraham Veale, 1573
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
M. Thou meanest then that there is so great difference between the communion that is between Jesus christ & the faithful, in respect of the unfaithful as is between that which is between the man & the wife, in respect of other men & women?
M. Thou meanest then that there is so great differēce betwene the cō muniō yt is betwéen Iesus christ & ye faithful, in respect of ye vnfaithful as is betwen yt which is betwene the mā & the wife, in respect of other mē & womē?
P. It is even so. For the only communion of nature maketh not communion of body & goods between all men and women, as doth the conjunction of marriage, the which the husband & the wife have together.
P. It is euen so. For ye only cōmuniō of nature maketh not cōmuniō of body & goodes betwene al men and women, as doth the coniunction of marriage, the whiche the husband & the wife haue togither.
M. Thou wilt then say in like sort that the communion of nature the which Jesus Christ hath common with all men, doth not carry with it such communion of all things, as doth that which he hath special with the faithful, by means of the faith which they have in him.
M. Thou wilt thē say in like sorte that the communion of nature the which Iesus Christ hath commō with all mē, doth not carie wt it such communiō of al things, as doth that which he hath special wt the faithful, by means of ye faith which thei haue in him.
P. the unbelievers have nothing common with Jesus christ but that they are men of the same human nature: but the faithful have this more, which is the principal, that all that they have is common to Jesus Christ with them, and that which Jesus Christ, hath is common ⟨p. 180⟩to them also.
P. the vnbeleuers haue nothing cōmō wt Iesus christ but yt thei ar mē of ye same human nature: but ye faithfull haue this more, which is ye principall, that all that they haue is common to Iesus Christ with them, and that whiche Iesus Christe, hath is common ⟨p. 180⟩to them also.
M. What is it that Jesus Christ may take of them, forsomuch as they be all none other than poor and sinful men?
M. What is it that Iesus Christe may take of them, forsomuch as they be all none other than poore and sinfull men?
P. He taketh upon him their sins,1 and the pain which is due unto them, as though he himself had committed them, and that he were guilty, to discharge and deliver them.
P. He taketh vppon him their sinnes,1 and the paine whiche is due vnto them, as though he himselfe had committed them, and that he were guiltie, to discharge and delyuer them.
M. He taketh then nothing of us, but only the evil which is in us?
M. He taketh then nothing of vs, but onely the euill whiche is in vs?
P. What other thing may he take, seeing that there is none other thing in us? But the nature of the alliance and communion which we have with him thorough faith, bringeth it: for otherwise, there should be no perfect communion, and so the alliance should not be full, if there were no participation of good and evil, such as it should and ought to be among those which be allied.
P. What other thyng may he take, séeing that there is none other thing in vs? But the nature of the alliance and communion which we haue with him thorough faith, bringeth it: for otherwise, ther should be no perfect communion, and so the alliance shoulde not be full, if there were no participation of good and euill, suche as it shoulde and oughte to be among those whiche be allyed.
M. Then on the contrary it must be, following the nature of this communion and alliance that we receive of Jesus Christ, the good things which are in him, as he doth the evil that is in us?
M. Then on the contrary it muste be, following the nature of this communion and alliance that wée receiue of Iesus Christe, the good things which are in him, as he doth the euill yt is in vs?
P. It is so to be understood.
P. It is so to be vnderstode.
M. Behold a communion and alliance which is greatly to our advantage.
M. Behold a communion and alliance which is greatly to our aduauntage.
P. It is wholly to our ⟨p. 181⟩advantage, and therefore it should so much the more inflame us in the love of God, and ravish and carry us away in admiration of his goodness, & of Jesus Christ our Lord, and of that most excessive love wherewith he hath loved us.
P. It is wholly to oure ⟨p. 181⟩aduantage, and therfore it should so much the more inflame vs in the loue of God, and rauishe and carrie vs away in admiration of his goodnesse, & of Iesus Christ our Lord, and of that most excessiue loue wherewith he hathe loued vs.
M. That same communion, is it the same that is in the Symbol of the Apostles, upon the which we are at this present, the communion of Saints?
M. That same communion, is it the same that is in the Symbole of the Apostles, vpon the whiche we are at this presente, the communion of Sainctes?
P. It is the very same: And because it is made by the power of the holy Ghost, we will speak more largely of it, when we shall speak of the holy Ghost, and of the Church.
P. It is the verye same: And bicause it is made by the power of the holy Ghoste, we will speake more largely of it, when we shal speake of the holy Ghost, and of the Churche.
M. I Understand now well by that which thou hast expounded unto me concerning the humane nature of Jesus Christ that we could have no salvation by him, if he had not a very body of our flesh and substance, and that we were flesh of his flesh, and bone of his bones: and except we had such alliance with him, ⟨p. 182⟩as there is between the husband & the wife. But I would gladly that thou diddest show me something more plainly the causes for the which it is also requisite for our salvation that Jesus Christ have an humane soul as well as an humane body.
M. I Vnderstand now well by that whiche thou hast expoūded vnto me concerning ye humane nature of Iesus Christ that wée could haue no saluation by him, if he had not a verye bodie of oure fleshe and substance, and that we were fleshe of his fleshe, and bone of his bones: and except we had suche alliance with hym, ⟨p. 182⟩as ther is betwene the husbād & the wife. But I would gladly yt thou diddest shew me somthing more plainly the causes for ye which it is also requisite for our saluation that Iesus Christe haue an humane soule as wel as an humane body.