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Of the divinity of the holy Ghost, and of the proprieties ascribed to all the persons of the Trinity.

Of the diuinitie of the holy Ghost, and of the proprieties ascribed to all the persons of the Trinitie.

M. What have we to consider of the person and nature of the holy Ghost?

M. WHat haue we to consider of the person and nature of the holy Ghoste?

M. How understandest thou that the holy Ghost proceedeth from the father and the son, considering that he is one very God, and of the same nature and essence with them?

M. How vnderstandest thou that the holy Ghost procéedeth from the father and the sonne, considering that he is one very God, and of the same nature and essence with them?

P. Thou must ever remember, that we consider in the nature ⟨p. 209⟩and essence of God the father, as beginning of all divinity: the son as his eternal word & wisdom, whereby he doth manifest himself: and the holy Ghost, as the virtue of the father and the son, by the which he worketh in us, to make him self known such as he declareth him in his son Jesus Christ, and to make us partakers of all his treasures, graces, and heavenly riches, the which the father hath opened unto us in him.

P. Thou must euer remember, that we consider in the nature ⟨p. 209⟩and essence of God the father, as beginning of al diuinitie: the sonne as his eternall word & wisedome, whereby he doth manifest himselfe: and the holy Ghost, as the vertue of the father and the sonne, by the which he worketh in vs, to make him selfe known such as he declareth him in his sonne Iesus Christe, and to make vs partakers of all his treasures, graces, and heauenlie riches, the whiche the father hath opened vnto vs in him.

If there be any beginning in the divine essence, and how the holy Ghost proceedeth from the father and from the son.

If there be any beginning in the diuine essence, and hovv the holy Ghost proceedeth from the father and from the sonne.

M. If the son & the holy ghost be one very god with the father, in mine opinion they be also eternal, and without beginning and without end, as he is.

M. If the sonne & the holy ghost be one very god with ye father, in mine opynion they be also eternall, and withoute beginning and without ende, as he is.

P. It is not to be doubted.

M. And yet for all that it seemeth to me, that first thou imputest beginning to the father, and after that thou placest the son, which followeth afterward, as though he had the father for his beginning and then the holy Ghost as following them after, and having ⟨p. 210⟩two beginnings, of the which the second dependeth of the first, to wit, the father and the son.

M. And yet for all that it séemeth to me, that firste thou imputest beginning to the father, and after that thou placest the sonne, whiche followeth afterward, as though he had the father for his beginning and then the holy Ghost as following thē after, and hauing ⟨p. 210⟩two beginnings, of the which the seconde dependeth of the first, to witte, the father and the sonne.

P. When I speak so, thou must think that I admit no beginning neither in the father, the son, nor in the holy Ghost, as if they were creatures, considering that I confess that they be one only God, and that there is in God neither beginning nor end.

P. When I speake so, thou must thinke that I admitte no beginning neyther in the father, the sonne, nor in the holy Ghost, as if they were creatures, cō sidering that I confesse that they be one only God, and that there is in God neyther beginning nor end.

M. I do well understand that.

M. I do well vnderstand that.

P. In like sort thou mayst not think that I put the one before the other, as though the one were the beginning of the other, in respect of time, in such sort that the father should be before the son as touching time, and then the father and the son before the holy Ghost, in such sort that the father should be the first, and the son the second, and the holy Ghost the third and last.

P. In like sorte thou mayst not thinke that I put the one before the other, as though the one were the beginning of the other, in respecte of time, in such sorte that the father should be before the sonne as touching time, and then the father and the son before the holy Ghoste, in such sorte that the father should be the first, and the sonne the second, and the holy Ghost the third and last.

How we ought to understand the order which is in the persons of the Trinity.

Hovv vve ought to vnderstand the order vvhiche is in the persons of the Trinitie.

M. IT seemeth to me for all that that thou sayest so, and I cannot otherwise understand it, if thou do not better declare ⟨p. 211⟩unto me thy meaning.

M. IT séemeth to me for all that that thou saist so, and I cannot otherwise vnderstād it, if thou do not better declare ⟨p. 211⟩vnto me thy meaning.

P. Thou must understand that a thing may be called first or last in divers sorts, and according to divers considerations.

P. Thou must vnderstande that a thing maye be called firste or laste in diuers sortes, and according to dyuers considerations.