A14463:1475
A14463:1475
A Christian instruction, containing the law and the Gospel Also a summary of the principal points of the Christian faith and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certain dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Province. Translated by I.S. Seen and allowed according to the Queens Majesties injunctions.A Christian instruction, conteyning the law and the Gospell Also a summarie of the principall poyntes of the Christian fayth and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certayne dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Prouince. Translated by I.S. Seene and allowed according to the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions.
London: printed by Henry Bynneman? for Abraham Veale, 1573
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
M. I Do now sufficiently understand thy meaning touching this point, of the nature and divinity of the holy Ghost: come to the other which is concerning his gifts.
M. I Do now sufficientlye vnderstande thy meaning touching this poynte, of the nature and diuinitie of the holye Ghoste: come to the other which is concerning his giftes.
Pe. Thou hast to note first, that because the Father doth communicate to us by the virtue of the holy Ghost, the graces the which he doth offer and present unto us in his Son Jesus Christ, these graces are called by the name of the holy Ghost. And therefore in the Scripture it is spoken of the holy Ghost, as though there were sundry of them.
Pe. Thou hast to note firste, that bycause the Father doth communicate to vs by the vertue of the holie Ghoste, the graces the whiche he doth offer and present vnto vs in his Sonne Iesus Chryst, these graces are called by the name of the holy Ghost. And therfore in the Scripture it is spoken of the holie Ghost, as thoughe there were sundry of them.
M. Give me an example of that which thou sayest.
M. Giue mée an example of that which thou sayest.
Peter. Isaiah,1 speaking of the graces which should be in Jesus Christ, and of the excellent gifts of god, wherewith he should be endued in his humane nature, hath said: The spirit of the Lord shall repose upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and of force, the spirit of knowledge and of fear of the Lord: There is also mention made in other places of the holy Scriptures,2 and chiefly in the Epistles of Saint Paul, of the Spirit of adoption and of faith, and of […] ⟨p. 218⟩prophecy, & of other such like gifts, which we must understand not of the essence of the holy Ghost,3 but of his works and effects.
Peter. Esay,1 speaking of the graces whiche shoulde be in Iesus Chryst, and of the excellent giftes of god, wherwith he should be indued in his humane nature, hath sayde: The spirite of the Lorde shall repose vpon him, the spirite of wisedome and vnderstanding, the spirite of counsell and of force, the spirite of knowledge and of feare of the Lorde: There is also mention made in other places of the holie Scriptures,2 and chiefly in the Epistles of Sainct Paule, of the Spirite of adoption and of faythe, and of 〈…〉 ⟨p. 218⟩prophecie, & of other such like gifts, whiche we must vnderstād not of the essence of the holy Ghost,3 but of his workes and effects.
M. Thy meaning is then, that we must distinguish between the nature of the holy Ghost, and his gifts & graces?
M. Thy meaning is then, that we must distinguishe betweene the nature of the holy Ghost, and his gifts & graces?
P. We must so understand: For when we say, according to the testimonies of the holy scriptures, that the holy Ghost dwelleth in us, we do not mean that he dwelleth in us in his nature and proper person united with us, as the divine nature was united in Jesus Christ with the humane: but that he there dwelleth by his virtue, & by his gifts and graces, whereof he maketh us partakers.
P. We must so vnderstand: For when wée say, according to the testimonies of ye holy scriptures, that the holie Ghost dwelleth in vs, we do not mean that he dwelleth in vs in his nature and proper person vnited with vs, as the diuine nature was vnited in Iesus Christe with the humane: but that he there dwelleth by his vertue, & by his gifts and graces, wherof he makech vs partakers.
MATTHEW. Howe many be the gifts of the holy Ghost?
MATHEVV. HOwe manye be the giftes of the holy Ghost?
P. If then couldest number ⟨p. 219⟩all the graces which God giveth unto men, thou moughtest also number all the gifts of the holy ghost.
P. If then couldest number ⟨p. 219⟩all the graces whyche God giueth vnto men, thou moughtest also number al the gifts of ye holy ghost.
M. It followeth then that there is no number certain.
M. It foloweth then that there is no number certain.
P. No in deed, except we will presume to number that which is infinite.
P. No in deede, excepte we wil presume to number that which is infinite.
M. That notwithstanding, it seemeth to me that the Theologians account ordinarily seven gifts and graces of the holy Ghost.
M. That notwithstanding, it seemeth to me that the Theologians accompte ordinarily seauen giftes and graces of the holy Ghoste.
Peter. These Theologians of whom thou speakest, are Papistical Theologians, which know neither what is the holy Ghost, nor yet his gifts, and therefore less the number of them. But because they have read near such a number of gifts of the holy Ghost, in the passage of Isaiah, which I even now alleged, they have concluded, that they were all comprehended in that number, or at the least they say so.
Peter. These Theologians of whom thou speakest, are Papisticall Theologians, whiche knowe neyther what is the holye Ghoste, nor yet his giftes, and therefore lesse the numbre of them. But bycause they haue read neare suche a number of giftes of the holie Ghoste, in the passage of Esaiah, which I euen nowe alledged, they haue concluded, that they were all comprehended in that number, or at the least they saye so.