A14463:2042
A14463:2042
A Christian instruction, containing the law and the Gospel Also a summary of the principal points of the Christian faith and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certain dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Province. Translated by I.S. Seen and allowed according to the Queens Majesties injunctions.A Christian instruction, conteyning the law and the Gospell Also a summarie of the principall poyntes of the Christian fayth and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certayne dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Prouince. Translated by I.S. Seene and allowed according to the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions.
London: printed by Henry Bynneman? for Abraham Veale, 1573
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
MATTHEW. I Have well understood that thou hast said that we must be nourished with spiritual meat and nurture into eternal life, and that by a spiritual manner, agreeable to the spiritual birth and life, into the which we are regenerate by baptism, and according to the testimony of God which is set forth unto us in the same concerning our regeneration.
MATHEVV. I Haue well vnderstoode that thou hast sayde that we must be nourished with spirituall meate and nouriture into eternall life, and that by a spirituall maner, agreable to the spirituall birth and life, into ye which we are regenerate by baptisme, and according to the testimonie of God which is set foorth vnto vs in ye same concerning our regeneration.
P. That which thou sayest may serve us very much to the understanding of the matter which we now handle. For thou doest well know that we are not regenerate in baptism, by any corporal or material seed of the body and of the blood of Jesus Christ, nor by any natural manner, as we are naturally begotten by our fathers & mothers.
P. That whiche thou sayest maye serue vs very much to the vnderstanding of the matter which we now hādle. For thou doest wel know that we are not regenerate in baptisme, by any corporall or material séede of the body and of the bloude of Iesus Christe, nor by any naturall manner, as we are naturally begotten by our fathers & mothers.
M. I know well also that we may not enter again into our mothers womb,1 as Nicodeme said to Jesus christ, to be borne a new once more, as we are already once borne.
M. I know well also that we may not enter againe into our mothers womb,1 as Nicodeme said to Iesus christ, to be borne a new once more, as we are already once borne.
P. And therefore I doubt not but that thou doest well understand that that regeneration and new birth is wrought by a seed incorruptible, spiritual and divine, by the which we are ⟨p. 323⟩begotten into the Church by the virtue of the holy Ghost, by whom we are regenerate into a new life.
P. And therefore I doubt not but that thou doest well vnderstande that that regeneration and newe birth is wrought by a séede incorruptible, spiritual and diuine, by the which we are ⟨p. 323⟩begotten into the Churche by the vertue of the holy Ghoste, by whome we are regenerate into a new life.
M. IT is not also said, that Jesus Christ doth give his body and his blood in Baptism, as he doth in the supper, like wise the water is not called therein the body and the blood of Jesus Christ, as Jesus Christ doth in the Supper call the bread & the wine by the name of them.
M. IT is not also said, that Iesus Christ doth giue his body and his bloud in Baptisme, as he doth in the supper, like wise the water is not called therein the body and the bloud of Iesus Christe, as Iesus Christ doth in the Supper call the bread & the wine by the name of them.
P. Albeit ye the water be not there called in baptism by that name, dost thou think for all that, that the body and blood of Jesus Christ be not there distributed and communicated unto thee in the same, as well as in the Supper?
P. Albeit ye the water be not there called in baptisme by that name, dost thou thinke for all that, that the body and bloude of Iesus Christ be not there distributed and communicated vnto thée in the same, as well as in the Supper?
M. I do not so understand it.
M. I do not so vnderstand it.
P. Thou wilt then ordain a Baptism without Jesus Christ.
P. Thou wilte then ordeyne a Baptisme withoute Iesus Christe.
M. Wherefore?
M. Wherfore?
P. Because thou canst not have Jesus Christ, except thou have him wholly, and very God and very man, and that thou have true communion with his body & with his blood, not only in the supper, but also in baptism.
P. Bycause thou cāst not haue Iesus Christ, except thou haue him wholy, and very God and very man, and that thou haue true communion with his body & with his bloud, not only in ye supper, but also in baptisme.
M. Show me the cause thereof.
M. Shewe me the cause thereof.
P. It is because that the Baptism doth no less send us to the death ⟨p. 324⟩and passion, and to the body and blood of Jesus Christ, than doth the Supper, for so much as that is proper to all sacraments.
P. It is bycause yt the Baptisme doth no lesse sende vs to the deathe ⟨p. 324⟩and passion, and to the body and bloud of Iesus Christe, than doth the Supper, for somuch as that is proper to al sacramēts.
M. IT seemeth to me that thou speakest against that which thou hast said heretofore, touching the difference which thou hast put between baptism and the Supper, for it seemeth that thou speakest now, as though baptism & the supper were one very Sacrament, and that there were no difference between them.
M. IT séemeth to me that thou speakest against that whiche thou hast sayde heretofore, touching the difference which thou hast put betwene baptisme and the Supper, for it séemeth that thou speakest now, as though baptisme & the supper were one very Sacramente, and that there were no difference betwene them.
P. Thou makest an evil conclusion. For albeit that we do as well participate of the body and of the blood of Jesus Christ in baptism as in the Supper, yet notwithstanding, there is difference in the participation and in the manner thereof, in respect of the benefits of Jesus Christ, which are signified and communicated unto us as well in the one of the sacraments as in the other.
P. Thou makest an euill conclusion. For albeit that we doe as well participate of the body and of the bloud of Iesus Christ in baptisme as in the Supper, yet notwithstanding, there is difference in the participation and in the manner thereof, in respect of the benefites of Iesus Christ, whiche are signified and communicated vnto vs as wel in ye one of the sacramēts as in the other.