A14463:2087
A Christian instruction, containing the law and the Gospel Also a summary of the principal points of the Christian faith and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certain dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Province. Translated by I.S. Seen and allowed according to the Queens Majesties injunctions.A Christian instruction, conteyning the law and the Gospell Also a summarie of the principall poyntes of the Christian fayth and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certayne dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Prouince. Translated by I.S. Seene and allowed according to the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions.
London: printed by Henry Bynneman? for Abraham Veale, 1573
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
MATTHEW. IT seemeth to me that all that which thou hast spoken of the ascension of Jesus Christ, is nothing against the opinion of those against whom thou hast so long disputed, for they deny not that Jesus Christ is gone up into Heaven, neither that he shall come visibly and bodily to judge the living and the dead, even as thou hast said.
MATHEVV. IT séemeth to me that all that whiche thou hast spoken of the ascētion of Iesus Christ, is nothing against the opiniō of those against whom thou hast so long disputed, for they denie not that Iesus Christe is gone vp into Heauē, neyther that he shall come visiblie and bodily to iudge the liuing and the dead, euen as thou hast said.
P. How do they then agree their doctrine with this confession?
P. How do they then agrée their doctrine with this confession?
M. They allege two things upon this point. The first is, that the heaven and the right hand of God where Jesus Christ is, do stretch over all. The other is, that the coming of Jesus Christ which is made by the sacrament, ⟨p. 334⟩the Supper is invisible: wherefore albeit that he be there bodily in the proper substance of his body & blood, yet is he not there visibly, but invisibly.
M. They alleadge two things vppon this pointe. The firste is, that the heauen and the right hand of God where Iesus Christe is, do stretche ouer all. The other is, that the comming of Iesus Christ which is made by the sacrament, ⟨p. 334⟩the Supper is inuisible: wherfore albeit that he bée there bodily in the propre substance of his bodie & bloud, yet is he not there visibly, but inuisibly.
P. If they make no space between the earth and the heaven, and that they will stretch out the heaven even to the earth in such sort that Christ hath not absented him from the earth, as touching his body, and that he did retire himself, when he went up into heaven, it may not then be said, that he is ascended as the Scripture witnesseth, but that he hath always remained upon earth, without departing from thence, against that which he himself did prophesy to his disciples. It must also be said, that he should then have made him self invisible to them, and that he were still yet on earth, not visible, but invisible.
P. If they make no space betwéene the earth and the heauen, and that they will stretche out the heauen euen to the earth in suche sort that Chryst hath not absented him from the earth, as touchyng his bodie, and that he didde retire himselfe, when he went vp into heauen, it may not then be sayde, that he is ascended as the Scripture witnesseth, but that he hathe alwayes remayned vppon earthe, without departing from thence, agaynst that whiche he himselfe did prophecie to his disciples. It muste also be sayde, that hée should then haue made hym selfe inuisible to them, and that he were stil yet on earth, not visible, but inuisible.
M. I Know not what to say to thee herein: For if it were so, then should there be no true ascension of Jesus Christ ⟨p. 319⟩into heaven.
M. I Know not what to say to thée herein: For if it were so, then shoulde there be no true ascētion of Iesus Christ ⟨p. 319⟩into heauen.
P. Albeit that it were so, yet must it needs be, that he have a body infinite to be in so many places at ones: or else that he have an infinite number of bodies to be in so many places at once, as they would have him.
P. Albeit that it were so, yet must it néedes be, that he haue a body infinite to be in so many places at ones: or else that he haue an infinite number of bodies to be in so many places at once, as they wold haue him.
M. I understand well, that if Jesus Christ had such a body, & that his humane nature were infinite, as is his divine, it could be no more an humane nature, nether could there be any difference between the one & the other.
M. I vnderstand well, that if Iesus Chryste had suche a bodie, & that his humane nature wer infinite, as is his diuine, it could be no more an humane nature, nether could there be any differēce betwene ye one & the other.
P. AS concerning that which thou hast said of the invisible coming of Jesus Christ, where is it in the holy Scriptures that they find such a coming, in the which Jesus Christ cometh from heaven invisibly in the proper substance of his body?
P. AS cōcerning that which thou hast sayde of the inuisible comming of Iesus Chryste, where is it in the holie Scriptures that they fynde suche a comming, in the which Iesus Chryst cōmeth from heauen inuisibly in the proper substance of his bodie?
M. I can not tell, for as thou haste already declared in the articles of faith, we speak but of two corporal comings of Jesus Christ.
M. I can not tell, for as thou haste alredy decelard in the articles of faith, we speake but of two corporall commings of Iesus Chryst.