A14463:2118
A14463:2118
A Christian instruction, containing the law and the Gospel Also a summary of the principal points of the Christian faith and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certain dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Province. Translated by I.S. Seen and allowed according to the Queens Majesties injunctions.A Christian instruction, conteyning the law and the Gospell Also a summarie of the principall poyntes of the Christian fayth and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certayne dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Prouince. Translated by I.S. Seene and allowed according to the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions.
London: printed by Henry Bynneman? for Abraham Veale, 1573
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
M. Thou understandest then these passages of the spiritual & divine presence of Jesus Christ in his Church.
M. THou vnderstandest then these passages of the spiritual & diuine presence of Iesus Christ in his Churche.
P. No man may otherwise take them. And therefore Jesus Christ hath said, to show that great power which he had. Al power is given me,1 both in heaven and in earth. S. Paul in like fort hath written that he is ascended above all the heavens, to the end ⟨p. 355⟩he mought fill all things, & that he mought fulfil all in the same.
P. No man may otherwise take them. And therfore Iesus Christ hath said, to shewe that great power which he had. Al power is giuē me,1 both in heauē and in earth. S. Paule in like fort hath written that he is ascended aboue all the heauens, to ye ende ⟨p. 355⟩he mought fill al things, & that he mought fulfill all in the same.
M. Doest thou understand that he doth accomplish and fill all things, not by his corporal presence, but by his spiritual & divine presence and virtue?
M. Doest thou vnderstand that he doth accomplishe and fill all things, not by his corporall presence, but by his spirituall & diuine presēce and vertue?
P. We may not otherwise understand it, if we do believe that Jesus christ hath a very natural body, & that he be in deed gone up into the heavens. For as we have already said, as there is no reason to give him many bodies, to be in many places at a time, even so is it over strange, to give him a body which may fill the heaven and the earth.
P. We may not otherwise vnderstand it, if we do beleue that Iesus christ hath a very natural body, & that he be in déede gone vp into the heauens. For as we haue alredy said, as ther is no reason to giue him many bodies, to be in manye places at a time, euē so is it ouer strange, to giue hym a bodye which may fill the heauen and the earth.
M. I Do now remember that thou hast already said that the body & the blood of Jesus Christ could not be separated from his spirit, from whence I do conclude that the body and blood of christ Jesus cannot be received but to the salvation of them which do receive it.
M. I Doe now remember that thou hast alredy said that the body & the bloud of Iesus Christ could not be separated frō his spirit, frō whence I do conclude that the body and bloud of christ Iesus cānot be receiued but to the saluation of them which doe receiue it.
P. None may doubt thereof.
M. It followeth then further ⟨p. 340⟩that infidels cannot receive them, forsomuch as they cannot receive them except they receive their salvation, the which they cannot obtain without faith, whereof they are void.
M. It followeth then further ⟨p. 340⟩that infidells cannot receiue them, forsomuch as they cannot receiue them except they receiue their saluation, the whyche they cannot obtaine without faith, wherof they are void.
P. This which thou sayest doth yet confirm more and more all that which we have handled heretofore concerning the corporal presence of Jesus Christ in the Supper.
P. This which thou sayest dothe yet confirme more and more all that whiche we haue handled heretofore concerning the corporall presence of Iesus Christ in the Supper.
M. It is also the cause why I did again set forth this matter. For if the body and the blood of Jesus Christ be corporally in the supper, in such sort, that whosoever receiveth bodily the bread and the wine therein, receiveth also the body and the blood of Jesus Christ corporally: there shall follow thereof many things, which seem to me very contrary as well to the office of Jesus christ as to the nature of this Sacrament of the Supper.
M. It is also the cause why I did againe set foorth thys matter. For if the body and the bloude of Iesus Christ be corporally in the supper, in suche sorte, that whosoeuer receiueth bodily the bread and the wine therein, receiueth also the body and the bloud of Iesus Christ corporally: there shall follow thereof many things, which séeme to me very contrary as well to the office of Iesus christ as to the nature of this Sacrament of the Supper.
P. Thou sayest very truth, and I am very glad to here of thee that which thou thinkest.
P. Thou sayest very truthe, and I am very glad to here of thée that which thou thinkest.
M. For the first we shall be constrained to confess that a man may in the Supper receive the body and the blood of Jesus Christ without faith and without his spirit, for the unfaithful which shall receive the ⟨p. 341⟩bread and the wine, shall no less receive the body and the blood of Jesus Christ, than the faithful.
M. For the firste we shall be constrayned to confesse that a man maye in the Supper receiue the body and the bloude of Iesus Christe without faith and without his spirite, for the vnfaithfull whiche shall receiue the ⟨p. 341⟩bread and the wine, shall no lesse receiue the body and the bloud of Iesus Christe, than the faithfull.
P. Behold there a very strange consequencie.
P. Beholde there a very straunge consequencie.
M. Moreover, if a man may receive them without faith, they which shall receive them in such sort, shall receive them either to their salvation or condemnation, if they receive them to their salvation, it must needs follow that a man may obtain salvation without faith: if they do receive them to their condemnation, it must then follow that the body and the blood of Jesus Christ do bring in this Sacrament against their nature, death in stead of life, which is also against the nature of the Sacrament, for it was not ordained to bring death to man, but life.
M. Moreouer, if a man may receyue them without faithe, they whiche shall receiue them in such sorte, shal receiue thē either to their saluation or condemnation, if they receiue thē to their saluation, it must néedes followe that a man maye obtaine saluation without faith: if they do receiue thē to their condemnation, it must then followe that the body and the bloude of Iesus Christe do bring in this Sacramente against their nature, deathe in stéede of life, whiche is also against the nature of the Sacramente, for it was not ordeyned to bring death to man, but life.
P. Thou concludest very well, but they which hold the opinion against the which we dispute at this present, ⟨p. 358⟩make no difference to affirm that the infidels receive in the supper the body & the blood of Jesus Christ, & that they receive them to their condemnation. For they build themselves upon that which s. Paul hath said. That who so eateth in the supper the bread & drinketh the wine of the lord unworthily,1 doth eat and drink his condemnation.
P. THou concludest very well, but they which houlde the opinion againste the whiche we dispute at this presente, ⟨p. 358⟩make no difference to affirme that the infidels receiue in the supper the body & the blud of Iesus Christ, & that they receyue thē to their condēpnation. For they build themselues vpō that which s. Paule hath saide. That who so eateth in the supper the bread & drincketh the wine of ye lorde vnworthily,1 doth eate and drinke his condempnation.