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Of the office as well of the ministers as of the other ancients and Censures of the Church, and of the regard that chiefly must be had unto them.

Of the office as vvell of the ministers as of the other auncientes and Censures of the Church, and of the regard that chiefly must be had vnto them.

M. Seeing it is so, show me then what is the office as well of the ministers as of other censures and ancients which may be joined unto them in this Ecclesiastic discipline.

M. SEing it is so, shew me thē what is ye office as wel of ye ministers as of other censures and ancients which may be ioyned vnto them in this Ecclesiastique discipline.

P. It is first of all to see carefully that the doctrine of the lord be not only truly set forth in the Church, but also that it be received with all honour and reverence, and practised as it is meet.

P. It is first of all to sée carefully that the doctrine of the lord be not only truly set foorth in the Church, but also that it be receyued with all honoure and reuerence, and practised as it is méete.

P. But it is over the ministers chiefly, that first heed must be taken, for if their doctrine and life be not such as their office requireth, they shall be a greater slander and a greater ruin to the whole Church than any other, & God shall be more dishonoured in them than he shall in all the rest that be under their charge.

P. But it is ouer ye ministers chiefly, that first héede must be taken, for if their doctrine and life be not such as their office requireth, they shal be a greater slaunder and a greater ruine to the whole Church than any other, & God shall be more dishonored in them than he shall in all the rest that be vnder theyr charge.

M. And who shall have the superintendence over them, considering that they be the chief governors and leaders, ⟨p. 362⟩which must lead and govern all the rest that are committed unto them.

M. And who shal haue the superintendance ouer them, considering that they be the chiefe gouernours and leaders, ⟨p. 362⟩which must leade and gouerne all the rest that are cōmitted vnto them.

P. If they must in deed watch over others, and correct them, they must chiefly look upon themselves, according to the advertisement which Saint Paul giveth them,¹ and they must correct the faults that be among them, by the discipline which they should have together.

P. If they must in déede watch ouer others, and correct them, they must chiefly looke vpon themselues, according to the aduertisement whiche Saincte Paule giueth them,¹ and they must correct the faultes that bée among them, by the discipline which they should haue togither.

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M. But if they do it not, but do bear the one with the other, or if there be such faults either in their doctrine or life, which deserve greater censures, or in deed open rebuke, what remedy is there for that?

M. But if they doe it not, but doe beare the one with the other, or if there be such faultes eyther in their doctrine or lyfe, which deserue greater censures, or in déede open rebuke, what remedie is there for that?

P. Then must the Ecclesiastic consistories which are ordained by and in the name of the whole Church, provide for the same, whereunto the other ancients and Censures of the Church, do assist with the ministers to remedy all offences, which may be either in the doctrine or life of any man, be he minister or other.

P. Then muste the Ecclesiastique consistories whiche are ordeyned by and in the name of the whole Churche, prouide for the same, whervnto the other auncients and Censures of the Church, do assist with the ministers to remedie all offences, whiche may be eyther in the doctrine or lyfe of any man, be he minister or other.

M. Shall not the councils provide for that?

M. Shal not the coūcels prouide for that?

P. That is a later remedy whereunto men may have recourse when necessity requireth it, provided that they be lawful.

P. That is a later remedy whervnto men may haue recourse when necessitie requireth it, prouided that they be lawfull.

M. Then must the like be understood ⟨p. 363⟩of all the rest, which are appointed in these Consistories, as Censures and Senators, and ecclesiastical judges.

M. Then muste the lyke be vnderstode ⟨p. 363⟩of al the rest, which are appointed in these Consistories, as Censures and Senators, and ecclesiasticall iudges.

P. Thou mayest well understand, that if they which are appointed to correct others, do not first correct themselves among themselves, they shall have no great authority to correct those which they ought to correct, neither may they do it without their great shame and confusion, and without giving great occasion of murmur, slander, and scattering of all the Church.

P. Thou mayste well vnderstande, that if they whiche are appointed to correcte others, doe not first correct themselues amōg themselues, they shal haue no great authoritie to correcte those whiche they ought to correcte, neyther may they doe it without their greate shame and confusion, and without giuyng great occasion of murmure, slaunder, and scattering of all the Churche.

M. And if they which have special charge in the Church, do bear the one with the other, and be them selves the cause of slanders, and scattering of the same, hath not then the whole Church together power to correct them, and to provide for and remedy such faults?

M. And if they whiche haue speciall charge in the Churche, doe bear the one with the other, and be them selues the cause of slaunders, and scattering of the same, hath not then the whole Church together power to correct them, and to prouyde for and remedie suche faultes?

P. Seeing that the power whereof we speak, is given by Jesus Christ, to his whole Church, who hath power to take it from her? May they take it from her to whom she hath given it?

P. Séeing that the power wherof we speake, is giuen by Iesus Chryst, to his whole Church, who hath power to take it from hir? May they take it from hir to whome shée hath giuen it?

M. No, except they be tyrants.

M. No, excepte they be tyrauntes.