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A Christian instruction, containing the law and the Gospel Also a summary of the principal points of the Christian faith and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certain dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Province. Translated by I.S. Seen and allowed according to the Queens Majesties injunctions.A Christian instruction, conteyning the law and the Gospell Also a summarie of the principall poyntes of the Christian fayth and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certayne dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Prouince. Translated by I.S. Seene and allowed according to the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions.
London: printed by Henry Bynneman? for Abraham Veale, 1573
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
M. I Understand by that which thou hast heretofore said, that none can well prove and examine himself, to communicate worthily at the supper, except that first he understand what mysteries and secretes this Sacrament containeth, and for what cause it was ordained. But forsomuch as Baptism is also a seal of the doctrine, the which it doth confirm, is it not therefore also needful that he which should be baptised, be first instructed in the doctrine whereof it is a Sacrament, and that he may yield reason of it?
M. I Vnderstand by that which thou hast heretofore saide, that none can well proue and examine himselfe, to communicate worthily at the supper, except that first he vnderstand what misteries and secretes this Sacramente conteyneth, and for what cause it was ordeyned. But forsomuch as Baptisme is also a seale of the doctrine, the which it doth confirme, is it not therefore also néedefull that he which shuld be baptised, be first instructed in the doctrine whereof it is a Sacrament, and that he may yeld reason of it?
P. If the person be of that age, that it be capable of the doctrine, that which thou sayest is required. But there is other consideration in the person of little children, borne of faithful parents, which are already received into the Church.
P. If the person be of that age, that it be capable of the doctrine, that whiche thou saist is required. But there is other consideration in the person of litle children, borne of faithfull parents, which are alredy receiued into ye Church.
M. But because these children are no more capable of the promise made in baptism, than the children of infidels, what reason is there rather to ⟨p. 387⟩baptise the one than the others.
M. But bycause these children are no more capable of the promise made in baptisme, than the children of infidells, what reason is there rather to ⟨p. 387⟩baptise the one than the others.
P. If the children of the faithful were no more capable, than those of the infidels, there were reason in that which thou sayest.
P. If the children of the faithfull were no more capable, than those of the infidells, there were reason in that which thou saist.
M. I see not wherein the one sort are more capable than the others, unless thou show it me more plainly.
M. I sée not wherein the one sorte are more capable thā the others, vnlesse thou shew it me more plainly.
P. Thou must understand that the promise which God hath made in Baptism,1 containeth the promise of the alliance, the which God hath made with his people, in the which he comprehendeth not only the faithful which thorough faith are admitted into this alliance, but also their children and the children of their children.
P. Thou must vnderstād that ye promise which God hath made in Baptisme,1 conteyneth the promise of the aliance, ye which God hath made with his people, in the which he comprehēdeth not only the faithfull whiche thorough faith are admitted into this aliance, but also their childrē and the children of their children.
M. Wilt thou then say, that the baptism of children which have faithful parents, is founded upon that alliance, and upon the faith of their parents?
M. Wilt thou then say, that the baptisme of children which haue faithfull parēts, is founded vpon that aliance, and vpon the faith of their parents?
P. Seeing that the promise is made, not only to the faithful parents, but also to their children, the Parents have just occasion to present their children to Baptism, to the end they may have thereby confirmation of the promise which is made as well to their children as to themselves, to the end that both they & their children may be the ⟨p. 388⟩more assured and comforted.
P. Seing that the promis is made, not onely to the faithful parents, but also to their childrē, the Parentes haue iust occasion to present their children to Baptisme, to the end they may haue thereby confirmation of the promise whiche is made as well to their childrē as to themselues, to ye end that both they & their children may be the ⟨p. 388⟩more assured and comforted.
M. This Baptism serveth then better for them than for their children, forasmuch as the children know not yet what it is.
M. Thys Baptisme serueth then better for them than for their children, forsomuche as the children knowe not yet what it is.
P. It serveth the one and the others. For albeit the children be not able as yet to understand what Baptism is, because of their age, yet are they capable (notwithstanding) already thorough the good pleasure of God, of the alliance whereof it is a Sacrament, and on the other side besides that which God worketh by his holy Spirit, as it pleaseth him, as well in little children as in the great, there is also prayer made in Baptism for the little children founded upon the same alliance, which is not vain, but bringeth forth his fruit in his time.
P. It serueth the one and the others. For albeit the children be not able as yet to vnderstande what Baptisme is, bycause of their age, yet are they capable (notwithstanding) already thorough the good pleasure of God, of the aliance wherof it is a Sacramente, and on the other side besides that whiche God worketh by hys holy Spirite, as it pleaseth him, as well in litle children as in the greate, there is also prayer made in Baptisme for the litle children founded vppon the same aliance, whiche is not vayne, but bringeth foorth his frute in his time.
M. Seeing then that Baptism of children is founded upon that alliance, it is not lawful to baptise a child, if he ⟨p. 389⟩be not borne of faithful Parents.
M. SEing then that Baptisme of children is founded vppon that aliance, it is not lawfull to baptise a childe, if he ⟨p. 389⟩be not borne of faithfull Parentes.