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A Christian instruction, containing the law and the Gospel Also a summary of the principal points of the Christian faith and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certain dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Province. Translated by I.S. Seen and allowed according to the Queens Majesties injunctions.A Christian instruction, conteyning the law and the Gospell Also a summarie of the principall poyntes of the Christian fayth and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certayne dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Prouince. Translated by I.S. Seene and allowed according to the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions.
London: printed by Henry Bynneman? for Abraham Veale, 1573
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
T. IT seemeth to me that we may easily discern and extinguish by the deduction which thou makest, all the degrees of sin.
T. IT séemeth to me that we may easily discerne and extinguishe by the deductiō which thou makest, all the degrées of sin.
D. It is easy to do. This same first spring & natural corruption, with that inclination & nature which is alway given to evil, is the same which we do properly call original sin, which of it self is wholly damnable, & can not be overcome by man, but only in that that he is delivered, and that he is regenerate by the only grace and spirit of God. Afterward, that same concupiscence which watcheth continually in man, and procureth him to evil, ⟨p. 525⟩is as it were, the bud of that rotten root, and of that cursed spring, which is never without casting forth some such bud, how generate soever a man be, during the time that he is in this world wrapped in this body of sin, and in his outward man, and in his old Adam. Therefore it followeth that there is no man living, how holy so ever he be,1 but that he is a great sinner before God, yea although he had no more fault but this same, and hath good occasion to say continually with the whole Church: And forgive us our offences. But if this bud come once to determination,2 and to bring forth the consent of the will, then doth the rebellion continually declare it self to be the more great, and the sin doth grow one degree more, and is more increased than before. Now when man is come to this degree of wickedness, and doth acknowledge his fault, and before he proceed any further, he refraineth from it, and asketh pardon of God, he doth less offend, than he that proceedeth to the putting of his wicked purpose in execution, or both ⟨p. 526⟩persevere in the same, although he have not mean to accomplish it, being sorry that he can not put it in execution. And he that doth find ready resistance in his con science, against the evil that doth continually provoke him, and notwithstanding despiseth the admonitions which God giveth him in his own conscience, and of a set purpose doth follow his wicked affection, the same is much more faulty, than he that hath been taken suddenly, either through ignorance or weakness.
D. It is easie to do. This same first spring & natural corruption, with that inclination & nature which is alway giuen to euill, is the same which we do properly call originall sinne, which of it selfe is wholly damnable, & can not be ouercome by man, but only in that that he is deliuered, and that he is regenerate by the only grace and spirite of God. Afterward, that same concupiscence which watcheth continually in man, and procureth him to euill, ⟨p. 525⟩is as it were, the budde of that rotten roote, and of that cursed spring, which is neuer without casting foorth some suche bud, how generate soeuer a man be, during the time that he is in this worlde wrapped in this body of sinne, and in his outwarde man, and in his olde Adam. Therefore it followeth that there is no man liuing, howe holy so euer he be,1 but that he is a great sinner before God, yea although he had no more faulte but thys same, and hath good occasion to say continually wyth the whole Churche: And forgiue vs our offences. But if this budde come once to determination,2 and to bring foorth the consent of the wyll, then dothe the rebellion continually declare it selfe to be the more great, and the sinne dothe growe one degree more, and is more encreased than before. Nowe when manne is come to this degree of wickednesse, and doth acknowledge hys fault, and before he procéede any further, he refrayneth from it, and asketh pardon of God, he dothe lesse offende, than he that proceedeth to the putting of his wicked purpose in execution, or bothe ⟨p. 526⟩perseuer in the same, although he haue not meane to accomplishe it, beeing sory that he can not put it in execution. And he that doth finde ready resistance in his cō science, agaynst the euill that doth continually prouoke him, and notwithstanding despiseth the admonitiōs which God giueth him in his owne conscience, and of a set purpose doth followe his wicked affection, the same is muche more faultie, than he that hath bene taken sodenly, either through ignorance or weaknesse.
T. What names may we give to these sorts and sundry degrees of sins, to distinguish them from the same first spring which thou hast called original sin?
T. WHat names may wée giue to these sorts and sundry degrees of sinnes, to distinguish them from the same first spring which thou hast called originall sinne?
D. Albeit that we do commonly call those actual, which come to the act and outward execution, yet notwithstanding we may well call by the same name the other degrees, for so much as all the fault that proceedeth from that wicked original spring, proceedeth forth ⟨p. 527⟩to the act and effect, although not in the sight of men, yet in the sight of God. There is no difference but only of more or of less, which doth either aggravate or diminish the sin, or the heinousness thereof, according to the degrees whereby it proceedeth, from whence it cometh to pass that the one sort are accounted venial, and the others mortal, according to the disposition of the persons towards God, concerning their faith or unfaithfulness.
D. Albeit that we doe commonly call those actuall, whiche come to the acte and outwarde execution, yet notwithstanding we may well call by the same name the other degrees, for so much as all the fault that proceedeth from that wicked originall spring, proceedeth foorth ⟨p. 527⟩to the acte and effect, although not in the sighte of men, yet in the sighte of God. There is no differēce but only of more or of lesse, which doth either aggrauate or diminishe the sinne, or the heinousnesse therof, according to the degrées whereby it proceedeth, from whence it commeth to passe that the one sorte are accompted veniall, and the others mortal, according to the disposition of the persons towards God, concerning their fayth or vnfaythfulnesse.
T. Thou hast now touched one point the which I would gladly understand: which is to say, what sins they be that be venial, and which they be that be mortal: and what is the cause of that difference. If thou wilt consider sin in his own nature, there is no sin but it is deadly, to wit, it bringeth with it death, not only corporal, but also eternal, ⟨p. 528⟩and doth right well deserve it. For if this natural corruption whereof we have already spoken, be in the fight of God worthy of such punishment, if there were no other thing in man, we may well think what it is that the other sorts do deserve, which do daily aggravate the evil and increase it more continually. Wherefore this original sin ought not to be esteemed a small sin, no more ought these buds of concupiscence, and the wicked affections, as many do account them, and chiefly the Papists. For the majesty of God is so great, that there is no rebellion what soever it be, nor root of rebellion & wickedness, but it is a crime of treason against the majesty of God. For God hath not only forbidden the act & consent to evil, but also the very concupiscence it self, although that it do not proceed so far as to the consent: as it appeareth by that which he said, thou shalt not covet, which shall be more plainly declared in his place. Now it is meet that the punishment be given according to the nature of the sin, wherefore seeing that God, against whose majesty the fault is committed, is eternal, it is certain ⟨p. 529⟩that there is no pain whatsoever it be that is sufficient for the punishment of an offence committed against the majesty of such a prince, nor may satisfy for the dishonouring of the same: for the case standeth not with god, as it doth with man, for so much as man is mortal, how great a prince soever he be, he may stretch & extend his authority no further than upon the earthly goods, or body of the offender: and according to the fault by him committed, he taketh either his goods or his body: & if the worst fall, he can take from him but his body & temporal life, for so much as his power extendeth no further but to this life, and that the fault touching either his person or his office, is but temporal as he is: but God hath a reign & power which stretcheth further, for it is eternal as he is. And therefore the faults which are committed against him, are worthy of eternal punishment.
T. THou hast nowe touched one point the which I would gladly vnderstande: which is to say, what sins they be that be veniall, and which they be that be mortall: and what is the cause of that difference. If thou wilte consider sinne in his owne nature, there is no sinne but it is deadly, to witte, it bringeth with it death, not onely corporall, but also eternall,
And therefore our saviour Jesus Christ saith, that God hath not only power to slay the body, as men have: but he is able also to slay both body and soul, and then to cast both the one and the other into everlasting fire, which is ordained for eternal punishments.
And therfore our sauiour Iesus Christ sayth, that God hath not only power to sley the body, as men haue: but he is able also to sley both body and soule, and then to cast bothe the one and the other into euerlasting fire, which is ordeyned for eternall punishments.
T. That which thou sayest is far off from the opinion of such as say that none shall be damned, and that in very deed the devils shall once be saved.
T. THat which thou sayest is farre off from the opinion of suche as say that none shal be dāned, and that in very déed the diuels shal once be saued.
D. The word of God shall then be false, which speaketh the clean contrary.
D. The worde of God shall then be false, whiche speaketh the cleane contrary.
T. They do ground them selves upon the mercies of God, saying that God hath created no man to destruction, and that it shall be a great cruelty in him, and contrary to his merciful nature, to punish so grievously a temporal sin, to wit, with everlasting pain.
T. They do ground them selues vpon the mercies of God, saying that God hath created no man to destruction, and that it shall be a great crueltie in him, and contrary to his mercifull nature, to punish so gréeuously a temporall sinne, to witte, with euerlasting payne.
D. Such men do greatly abuse them selves, and do declare plainly that they know neither the nature of sin, nor yet the majesty of him against ⟨p. 531⟩whom it is committed. For do they think the contempt of such a majesty ro be nothing, according to the which the greatness of the sin must be measured, & not only according to the thing wherein it hath bin committed: wherefore if that god should punish with eternal death all the men that ever were, are, & shall be, he should do them no wrong, but should do them justice and right. Therefore in that that he saveth those which have recourse to his mercy, the same cometh of his mere grace, wherein in deed he declareth unto us what punishment we have deserved. For seeing that it was expedient that his own son should bear the pain which was due to the sins of them unto whom he would show mercy in him & by him, he hath right well declared by the same, that there was no pain whatsoever it was, that was able to satisfy his judgement, but that of his son, who by reason of his great innocency & perfect obedience, was only sufficient for such a satisfaction. For if man could suffer any pain, whereby he mought satisfy the eternal justice of God, there should then ⟨p. 532⟩be no hell, nor eternal damnation, for the pains should once have end. But forasmuch as they do never end, they do declare thereby that they are not sufficient for such satisfaction: and on the other side, that it must needs be, because that they may in no wise be sufficient, that they be eternal, saving only to such as have received Jesus Christ by faith, who hath borne the wrath of God, and the pains due to their sins, to deliver them, as it is written:1 he that believeth in the Son of God, the same hath eternal life: He that believeth not in the Son of God, the wrath of God abideth still upon him. And as concerning that which thou hast said, that God hath made no man to be damned, I do confess it, if it be well understood, but not in that sense that they do take it which allege that text or passage of the scripture to abuse the grace & goodness of God.2 It is very true that God hath made no creature to that only end that he should be damned, for he hath created all things for his glory, & hath mind all for him self, yea the wicked for the evil
D. Suche men doe greatly abuse them selues, and doe declare plainly that they knowe neither the nature of sinne, nor yet the maiestie of him against ⟨p. 531⟩whome it is cōmitted. For do they thinke the contempte of such a maiesty ro be nothing, according to ye which the greatnesse of the sinne must be measured, & not only according to the thing wherin it hath bin committed: wherfore if that god shuld punish with eternall death all the men that euer were, are, & shalbe, he shuld do them no wrong, but should do them iustice and right. Therefore in yt that he saueth those which haue recourse to his mercie, ye same commeth of his méere grace, wherein in déed he declareth vnto vs what punishmēt we haue deserued. For seing that it was expediēt that his owne sonne shuld beare the payne which was due to the sinnes of them vnto whome he would shew mercie in him & by him, he hath right wel declared by the same, that there was no payne whatsoeuer it was, that was able to satisfie his iudgemente, but that of his sonne, who by reason of his great innocencie & perfect obedience, was only sufficient for such a satisfaction. For if man could suffer any paine, whereby he mought satisfie the eternall iustice of God, there should then ⟨p. 532⟩be no hell, nor eternall damnation, for the paines should once haue ende. But forsomuche as they do neuer ende, they do declare thereby that they are not sufficiente for such satisfaction: and on the other side, that it must néedes be, bycause that they may in no wise be sufficient, that they be eternall, sauing only to suche as haue rereyued Iesus Christe by faith, who hathe borne the wrath of God, and the paynes due to their sinnes, to deliuer them, as it is written:1 he that beloueth in the sonne of God, the same hathe eternall lyfe: He that beléeueth not in the Sonne of God, the wrathe of God abideth still vpon him. And as concerning that which thou hast said, that God hath made no man to be damned, I do cōfesse it, if it be well vnderstood, but not in that sense that they do take it which aledge that texte or passage of the scripture to abuse the grace & goodnesse of God.2 It is very true that God hath made no creature to that only ende that he should be damned, for he hath created all thinges for his glory, & hath minde all for him selfe, yea the wicked for the euill ⟨p. 533⟩day.