A15061:270
An answer to a certain book, writtenAn answere to a certeine booke, written
An answer to a certain book, written by Master William Rainolds student of divinity in the English college at Rhemes, and entitled, A refutation of sundry reprehensions, cavils, etc. by William Whitaker ...An answere to a certeine booke, written by Maister William Rainolds student of diuinitie in the English colledge at Rhemes, and entituled, A refutation of sundrie reprehensions, cauils, etc. by William Whitaker ...
Printed at London : For Thomas Chard, 1585
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
The other place of Saint Chrysostom hath less force for proof of Real presence,1 although Master Rainolds deck ⟨p. 201⟩& garnish it all he can, as if he would make say thereof. The most that Saint Chrysostom saith is, that Christ sitting with his father above at the same moment is handled with all mens hands: 2wherein first of all private mass, used in the Popish synagogues, •eceaveth a blow. For Chrysostom saith, Christ is handled wit• all m•ns hands […] the Popish mass the priest only h• adl•h all, that is handled. […] who is so •imple not to see […] m••ni•g of that godly and eloquent father, in this kind of speech? Do all men handle Christ with their hands indeed? doth Saint Chrysostom mean a real handling, as a man handleth bread?3 do yourselves think thus grossly, •r else for a show pretend you to maintain the same? That Christ may thus be handled taken up, laid down, broken, eaten, swallowed, removed from place to place, tossed to and fro, and all this, as you speak, really, is monstrous, and loathsome doctrine, in the ears and harts of all godly and reasonable men. This S. Chrysostom once to have imagined, never shall you show in this world. Chrysostom meaneth the sacrament of Christ, which we handle indeed, and which in some sense in called Christ himself. ⟨p. 202⟩This to be most true, is plain by Chrysostom in the same place.4 For he saith, We see the Lord sacrificed, and the people are sprinkled, and made red with his blood: and this done plainly without deceit in the sight of all men. If Chrysostom may be allowed to expound himself, your gloss of real handling Christ in the sacrament must give place. For if he meant, as you mean, that Christ is handled indeed, then meant he also that Christ is sacrificed indeed in our sight, that the people are dyed and embrued with blood indeed, that all men see the same indeed. For these speeches are all of one stamp, all after one sort to be understood: as one part is true, so is another. Then tell us M.R. if Christ be sacrificed indeed, if the people be embrued with his blood indeed, if this be evident to all men indeed: you may not urge us so extremely in one, and give us the slip in all the rest. Let us then consider what reply you make to this answer, which to be true and sufficient you can not deny.