Again it is certain that our fathers dyed in the confession of the same faith with us, wherein we say, I believe the remission of sins, the resurrection of the body, & the life everlasting. Wherefore sith the universal faith, & the manifest testimonies of the Scriptures do evidently prove, that all they which by true faith commit them ⟨image 90⟩selves to the grace and mercy of God and dye in Christ, are preserved of him so as they come not into judgement, into any fire, pain, or punishment, […] are received into everlasting joye• how then I beseech you, can we pr• for them, or do such like things for the• salvation, whereof in deed they sho•• have need, if they suffered any pay• or punishment. But they suffer no• and therefore there needeth nothing be done to deliver them from it. F•• if after the departure out of this life the true Faith, they yet nevertheless suffered the fire of Purgatory, punishments and torments, then we• all that vain and to no purpose which are read and taught us out of […] holy Scriptures, touching the fr•• merciful promise of God, the del• ueraunce by Christ, and of the certain tie and verity of faith: yea our fay• it self, should be most untrue. B• our faith is certain and sure. Ther• fore as our fathers did undoubtedly b• leeve the forgiveness of sins, & ete• nall life, so have they undoubtedly o• ▪ ⟨p. 80⟩teyned the same, and feel no pain in ••e other life. And therefore both for the glory of God, the praise and confession of our faith, as also for the honour of ••r fathers, touching whose salvation •e doubt not, we do nothing after their […]ath for the salvation of their souls. […]ea we think that by these kind of dogs & prayers of ours, both our salvation, and faith is called in doubt, as […]oughe they believed the remission of […]nes & everlasting life, and yet have […]t obtained it. But this is most wicked be thought, & therefore not to be spoken: […] it is all one, as though God and our ••th might deceive us, which is impos[…]le. Moreover for brevities sake I will1 […]t here declare how vile those things […], and without all authority of Gods ••rde, which they command us to […] for the help of our fathers: so as they should feel but some of those tolerable pains of Purgatory, as •y say they do, yet could these […]ngs help them nothing at all:
Agayne it is certayne that our fathers dyed in the confession of the same fayth with vs, wherein wée say, I beleeue the remission of sinnes, the resurrection of the body, & the lyfe euerlasting. Wherefore sithe the vniuersall fayth, & the manyfest testimonies of the Scriptures doo euidently proue, that al they which by true fayth commit them ⟨image 90⟩selues to the grace and mercy of God and dye in Christ, are preserued of him so as they come not into iudgement, into any fire, payne, or punishment, 〈…〉 are receiued into euerlasting ioye• how then I beseeche you, can wée pr• for them, or do such like things for the• saluation, wherof in déede they sho•• haue néede, if they suffered any pay• or punyshmente. But they suffer no• and therfore there néedeth nothing bée done to delyuer them from it. F•• if after the departure out of this life the true Fayth, they yet neuertheles• suffered the fire of Purgatorie, punishementes and torments, then we• all that vayne and to no purpose whiche are reade and taughte vs out of 〈…〉 holy Scryptures, touching the fr•• mercyfull promyse of God, the del• ueraunce by Chryst, and of the certai• tie and veritie of fayth: yea our fay• it selfe, shoulde bée moste vntrue. B• our fayth is certayne and sure. Ther• fore as our fathers did vndoubtedly b• léeue the forgiuenesse of sinnes, & ete• nall lyfe, so haue they vndoubtedly o• ▪ ⟨p. 80⟩teyned the same, and féele no payne in ••e other lyfe. And therefore bothe for the glory of God, the prayse and confession of our faith, as also for the honor of r fathers, touching whose saluation e doubt not, we do nothing after their ath for the saluation of their soules. ea we think that by these kind of dogs & prayers of ours, both our saluation, and faythe is called in doubte, as oughe they beléeued the remission of nes & euerlasting life, and yet haue t obteined it. But this is most wicked be thought, & therfore not to be spokē: it is all one, as though God and our th might deceiue vs, which is imposle. Moreouer for breuities sake I wil
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