A19142:1105
A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's worship. Or a triplication unto. D.…A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's vvorship. Or a triplication unto. D.…
A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's worship. Or a triplication unto. D. Burgess his rejoinder for D. Morton The first partA fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's vvorship. Or a triplication unto. D. Burgesse his rejoinder for D. Morton The first part
Amsterdam: printed by the successors of Giles Thorp, 1633
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13. Beza was by the Def. granted to speak for us. But the Rejoinder (having now exercised himself unto confidence in such elusions) will needs have it, that Bezas phrase only, not his meaning doeth make for us. Let us therefore hear his reasons. 1. Beza (saith he) condemneth all Symbolical rites, 1which he calleth Sacramental, that is signifying spiritual graces, not duties. Now Bezas words (ep. 8.) are these: I affirm that so often as the ancients brought into the Church any Sacramentals i. e. Significative ceremonies of Spiritual things so oft they grievously offended. Withal I think that all symbolical rites should be once profligited out of the church whereinto by no right they could ever enter nor as long as they remain can the Church have her native beauty restored. Here is no mention at all of graces, but only of spiritual things: and yet the Rejoinder would persuade his reader, that he saith not spiritual duties, but graces. His gloss is naught. Spiritual things comprehend so well spiritual duties, as graces. How this reason will be excused, I cannot guess: except perhaps it ⟨p. 245⟩be answered, that humane Ceremonies do signify duties as they are carnal, and not as they are spiritual. It is further to be marked, that Beza there speaketh of of such humane significant Ceremonies, as were in common use among the ancient Fathers. Now the Rejoinder will not say that they had in common use, so many humane Sacraments, as Beza noteth them to have had significant Ceremonies. 2. The second reason, by which the Rejoynd. would prove that Beza meant not simply to condemn all significant Ceremonies, is, because he alloweth some Feast-days, confesseth the Surplice and kneeling to be in their nature indifferent, and saith that the Cross might sometime of old have had lawful use. For the former of which, if the words of Beza, had been noted, more might be said. In the mean time, let this suffice: If Beza did allow of some humane Feast-days, it may better from this place be gathered, that he did not account them significant of spiritual things, then it can from them be gathered, that in this place he did not condemn all such significants of mans making. Neither doeth he affirm a significant Surplice to be indifferent. And as for kneeling, that is more excepted against for other causes, then for instituted signification.
13. Beza was by the Def. granted to speak for us. But the Rejoynder (having now exercised hmself unto confidence in suche elusions) will needs have it, that Bezas phraze onely, not his meaning doeth make for us. Let us therfor hear his reasons. 1. Beza (sayth he) condemneth all Symbolicall rites,