A19142:1470
A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's worship. Or a triplication unto. D.…A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's vvorship. Or a triplication unto. D.…
A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's worship. Or a triplication unto. D. Burgess his rejoinder for D. Morton The first partA fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's vvorship. Or a triplication unto. D. Burgesse his rejoinder for D. Morton The first part
Amsterdam: printed by the successors of Giles Thorp, 1633
Part › Chapter 4 › SECT. 7.8.9.10.11.12.13.14.15.16.17.18.19.20. Councels, and Ancient… › Kneeling.
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8. Ambrose taught Monica, Augustine's mother, to leave bringing of Wine and Cakes to Church, because it had a show of conformity with the Gentiles funeral-feasts. The Defender answered, that it was an act of sacrificing, &c. as Bellarmine doeth, de Sanctor. Beat. lib. 1. cap. 14. Nay saith the Rejoinder Bellarmine neither so answered, nor had occasion so to answer. But if he had considered, that the Defender maketh this fact of Monica's, to be a sacrifice, derived from the Collyridian heretics; and that Bellarmine there answereth to the argument taken out of Epiphanius, against those Collyridians, as may appear by comparison of cap. 11. in the end; and that in the objection, there is no mention of sacrificing, but Bellarmin answereth by covert of that term; he would have forborne this censure.
8. Ambrose taught Monica, Augustines mother, to leave bringing of Wine and Cakes to Churche, because it had a shew of conformitie with the Gentiles funeral-feasts. The Defender answered, that it was an act of sacrificing, &c. as Bellarmine doeth, de Sanctor. Beat. lib. 1. cap. 14. Nay sayth the Rejoynder Bellarmine neyther so answered, nor had occasion so to answer. But if he had considered, that the Defender maketh this fact of Monicas, to be a sacrifice, derived from the Collyridian haereticks; and that Bellarmine there answereth to the argument taken out of Epiphanius, against those Collyridians, as may appear by comparison of cap. 11. in the ende; and that in the objection, ther is no mention of sacrificing, but Bellarmin answereth by covert of that terme; he would have forborne this censure.
It was also pronounced an incredible thing, that Augustine's religious mother, should then sacrifice to a creature, which the Papists now will nor profess to do. To this the Rejoinder is, that the Defender never said Monica did sacrifice. Consider therefore his words, reprinted by the Rejoinder pag. 501. The act (objected) was sacrificing: You compare our Ceremonies, with Ceremonies of sacrificing. Did we object an act as comparative to our Ceremonies, any act, beside that of Monica? Certainly no. If therefore the act objected & compared, were a sacrifice, then Monica's act must needs in the Defender his account, be sacrificing.