A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's worship. Or a triplication unto. D.…A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's vvorship. Or a triplication unto. D.…

13. Another odd reason was framed by the Repl. thus: If this doeth make a Ceremony not the same, that men have not altogether the same opinion of it; then among the Papists, there are as many kind of Ceremonies, Crosses, Surplices, as there are diversities of opinions, about their nature and use; which no man will say. Yes (saith the the Rejoinder) I will say it of Ceremonies: and he that shall deny this, must lay aside both learning, ⟨p. 486⟩and conscience, not knowing what to say. But he is too too confident, upon the ground which he is driven to by force of a contrary wind. For without laying aside of learning, and conscience, we may thus argue: If this be so, then all human Ceremonies used among the Papists, and brought in (as hitherto all have used to speak) by Popes, are not Popish. For they may be this or that Hedge-Priests Ceremonies, who hath added his opinion and institution unto them. 2. The Pope) by the same reason) cannot know, when his Ceremonies ar• observed, or omitted▪ because he cannot know all opinions and intentions of men. And the like reason holding with us, our Church must inquire into the opinions and intentions of men, before she can know, whether her Ceremonies be observed, yea, or no. I leave it then to a Convocation-consultation, if it be not necessary, that in the Bishops Articles, the Church-Wardens should be asked, upon that oath, which they usually take, and break, With what opinion, and intention, their Minister doeth wear the Surplice, and use the Cross? For otherwise, it cannot be known, whether he useth the Ceremonies of the Church of England, or others of his own making? 3. When men have no opinion or intention of such Ceremonies, but only that they are necessary to stand betwixt them and deprivation, or excommunication, or other vexation (which is the case of our best Conformers) then, though they use Cross, Surplice, &c. they do not conform to the Ceremonies of our Church, but in hypocrisy, and so with great sin.

13. Another odde reason was framed by the Repl. thus: If this doeth make a Ceremony not the same, that men have not altogether the same opinion of it; then among the Papists, there are as many kinde of Ceremonies, Crosses, Surplices, as there are diversities of opinions, about their nature and use; which no man will say. Yes (sayth the the Rejoynder) I will say it of Ceremonies: and he that shall denie this, must lay aside both learning,