A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's worship. Or a triplication unto. D.…A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's vvorship. Or a triplication unto. D.…

The first question was about Temples, Bells, Tablecloths (objected by the Defendant) whether they have such Idolatry put upon them by Papists, as the Cross hath? The Rejoinder answereth 1. that if they have as much as the Surplice, that will serve the turn. It would indeed, in part; though nor in whole. But that cannot be proved. His second answer is, that such a Cross as ours is, was never abused at all in Popery. Which is a Metaphysical conceit, sufficiently before confuted. His third is, that Temples and Bells, were as well abused. But the question was of such Idolatry. His fourth is, that the white linen Altar cloth was as much abused as the Surplice.

The first question was about Temples, Bells, Tablecloths (objected by the Defendant) whether they have such Idolatry put upon them by Papists, as the Crosse hath? The Rejoynder answereth 1. that if they have as much as the Surplice, that will serve the turne. It would indeed, in part; though nor in whole. But that cannot be prooved. His second answer is, that such a Crosse as ours is, was never abused at all in Popery. Which is a Metaphisicall conceit, sufficiently before confuted. His third is, that Temples and Bells, were as well abused. But the question was of such Idolatry. His fourth is, that the white linnen Altar cloth was as much abused as the Surplice.

But the question was of the Cross. And 2. The Papists Altar-cloth, differeth much from the Table-cloth which we allow of.

But the quaestion was of the Crosse. And 2. The Papists Altar-cloath, differeth much from the Table-cloath which we allow of.

2. The second was, if the Defender his own heart did not tell him, that there is a civil use of the things fore-named; which cannot be imagined of the Cross? The Rejoinder granteth a civil use of Bells; thugh not of Churches, or Communion table-clothes: Adding, that there may be a civil use of some Crosses, though not of Transient Grosses (such as ours) and also of Wafers. But he attended neither to those words of the Replier: If his own heart do not tell him; nor to those: such things. For his bringing-in first of terms, which involve the use together with the things, and that use also immediate, which is but mediate, in Churches, and Communion table clothes; with his contrary changing of such Crosses as ours, into some Crosses, and Wafer-Gods into Wafer-seals for letters, declare both. Concerning the difference, enough hath been said in the first part of this Fresh-suit, in the head of Ceremonies.