A19178:285
A reply to Dr. Mortons general Defence of three nocent [sic] ceremonies viz. the…A reply to Dr. Mortons generall Defence of three nocent [sic] ceremonies viz. the…
A reply to Dr. Mortons general Defence of three nocent [sic] ceremonies viz. the surplice, cross in baptism, and kneeling at the receiving of the sacramental elements of bread and wine.A reply to Dr. Mortons generall Defence of three nocent [sic] ceremonies viz. the surplice, crosse in baptisme, and kneeling at the receiving of the sacramentall elements of bread and wine.
Amsterdam: printed by Giles Thorp, 1622
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
13 Melchiades forbade fasting at the same time with Pagans. That was (saith the Def.) because they lived in the same Country, at the same time and place Nothing else he hath to answer. And doth Country, time and place, make such a difference, that the same ceremonies in one Country, time and place, shall be Christian, and in another Paganish? What if the Countries be within half a days sail, as France is to England, and the time be the same, as it is in our case? confess the truth, and shame the devil.
13 Melchiades forbad fasting at the same time vvith Pagans. That was (saith the Def.) because they lived in the same Conutrey, at the same time and place Nothing else he hath to answer. And doth Countrey, time and place, make such a difference, that the same ceremonies in one Countrey, time and place, shall be Christian, and in another Paganish? What if the Countries be vvithin halfe a daies saile, as France is to England, and the time be the same, as it is in our case? confesse the truth, and shame the devill.
14 Ambrose dissuaded Monica from bringing of wine and cakes to the Church. There is no proportion (saith the Def.) for that was an act of sacrificing performed by women, who are forbidden to sacrifice, as well as to preach: devised by private persons: of an idolatrous invention. The first of which answers is Bellarmines de sanct. beat. l. 1. c. 14, but evidently false. For the Papists themselves are not so gross as to confess that they offer any proper sacrifice unto any creature whatsoever, Bellat. de sanct. beat. lib. 1 cap. 12: and shall I we think the mother of Augustine, with other religious women in those purer times to have been guilty of so great impiety? Epiphanius may call it a sacrifice in a rhetorical phrase, because it was an offering: but in disputations we must speak properly, yet Epiphanius doth call it only an offering. 2 the person or sex of a woman, maketh no difference. For Monica was not the inventer and appointer, but only the actor: and a woman may bring her offering and lay it upon the Communion table as well as a man. 3. It doth not appear that this was the invention of private persons: there have been Bishops which have fathered as good children as ⟨p. 67⟩