A reply to Dr. Mortons general Defence of three nocent [sic] ceremonies viz. the…A reply to Dr. Mortons generall Defence of three nocent [sic] ceremonies viz. the…

7 As the Minister hath no faculty in himself to appoint a successor, so hath not the Bishop neither of himself, and by himself.

7 As the Minister hath no facultie in himselfe to appoint a successor, so hath not the Bishop neither of himselfe, and by himselfe.

Thus much for the defendant his case. Whereas he addeth, that Beza and Mr. Cartwright determined with him in case of the Surplice. I answer, 1. they did not so for the cross. 2. they did not so for subscription to either. 3. they did not so but by way of toleration, requiring also that men did speak against the imposing of the Surplice. 4. Beza was not throughly acquainted with the state of our Church. Mr. Cartwright (as I have been certainly informed by his own son) recalled that passage of his book, and desired that his revoking of it might be made known.

Thus much for the defendant his case. Whereas he addeth, that Beza and Mr. Cartwright determined with him in case of the Surplice. I answer, 1. they did not so for the crosse. 2. they did not so for subscription to either. 3. they did not so but by way of toleration, requiring also that men did speake against the imposing of the Surplice. 4. Beza was not throughly acquainted with the state of our Church. Mr. Cartwright (as I haue been certainly informed by his owne sonne) recalled that passage of his booke, and desired that his revoking of it might be made known.

I thought good, overseeing the Press, to confirm the Authors report, by a more particular relation which I have received from a person of good credit, set down in writ as followeth. MR. Cartwright being beyond the seas, in printing the rest of his 2. Reply, wherein that indulgence is, sent to the Ministers of England who sought reformation with him, for their opinion of the use of the Surplice in case of deprivation: 22 of whom met thereabout; of whom 19 jointly agreed that it was simply unlawful in any case, but the other three said otherwise; wherefore it was agreed by all, that each part should write their opinion and their reasons to him, which they did: but the letter of the nineteen miscarried, and that of the other three was delivered, which he taking as the letter of the whole, supposed their joint consent had been, that the loss of the ministry altered the case of the unlawfulness, and so that they were all against him; whereupon he mistrusting his own judgement, and being much perplexed thereabout, suffered himself to be swatted unto what is there written: but afterward understanding the right, he was much more perplexed; yea (as he said) more then ever he was, in that to the great prejudice of the truth, he had suffered his conscience to be so defiled, which was forbidden,