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An apologetical reply to a book called an answer to the unjust complaint of…An apologeticall reply to a booke called an ansvver to the unjust complaint of…
An apologetical reply to a book called an answer to the unjust complaint of VV.B. Also an answer to Mr. I.D. touching his report of some passages. His allegation of Scriptures against the baptising of some kind of infants. His protestation about the publishing of his writings. By John Davenport BD.An apologeticall reply to a booke called an ansvver to the unjust complaint of VV.B. Also an answer to Mr. I.D. touching his report of some passages. His allegation of Scriptures against the baptising of some kind of infants. His protestation about the publishing of his wrightings. By Iohn Davenporte BD.
Rotterdam: printed by Isaac van Waesberghe, 1636Rotterdam: printed by Isaack van Waesberghe, 1636
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The Answerer did not account it a special work of his calling to sit in the Dutch Classis, a good while after his coming to Amsterdam, when he laboured to set up an English Classis; though afterwards he opposed the same thing, when it took effect by Mr. Forbes his labour. How comes it now to be a special work of his calling, which then was not? 5. The Answerer hath been heard to say, that he cometh sometimes from the Classis grieved & troubled in his mind, because, when weighty matters are debated, he cannot sufficiently express his mind in Dutch. And well may it grieve him to supply the place of a Pastor there, if he find him self unable to perform one special work of his calling. To wind up all. Seeing the Answerer maketh that an especial work of the Ministers calling to his Church in Amsterdam, which God doeth not make so, in any place of Scripture, nor the Magistrates do make so, neither there, to other Nations, nor, in other Cities, to other English Churches, and seeing, by that pretence, they are deprived of many worthy men, which they might have enjoyed (had not this been so insisted upon by him) and seeing the Answerer doth urge it more strictly, then the Magistrates (they propounding it, but as a matter of conveniency, but he pressing it, as a matter of necessity) have not the members just cause to complain of this as a grievance? Nor will this free him from blame, that he is but one, and claimeth but one voice, seeing he hindereth, that what agreeth not with his mind, can not be ended in the Church, but is carried to the Classis, where he can strengthen himself, by help of those whom he gaineth to his party, by raising causeless suspicions of some factions, or Schismatical intentions in his people, or in the Consistory, which they receive from him, and report to the Magistrates, who, at their entreaty, interpose to prevent some imagined distractions, which may fall in the English Church: whereas, if they had rightly been informed of the whole truth, they would have seen the request of the Church to be reasonable, ⟨p. 93⟩and just, and the opposition made against it to be injurious, and blameworthy.
The Answerer did not account it a speciall worke of his calling to sit in the Dutch Classis, a good while after his comming to Amsterdam, when he laboured to set up an English Classis; though afterwards he opposed the same thing, when it tooke effect by Mr. Forbes his labour. How comes it now to be a speciall worke of his calling, which then was not? 5. The Answerer hath bene heard to say, that he commeth sometimes from the Classis greived & troubled in his mind, because, when weighty matters are debated, he cannot sufficiently expresse his mind in Dutch. And well may it greive him to supply the place of a Pastor there, if he find him selfe unable to performe one speciall worke of his calling. To wind up all. Seing the Answerer maketh that an especiall worke of the Ministers calling to his Church in Amsterdam, which God doeth not make so, in any place of Scripture, nor the Magistrates doe make so, neither there, to other Nations, nor, in other Cityes, to other English Churches, and seing, by that pretence, they are deprived of many worthy men, which they might have injoyed (had not this bene so insisted upon by him) and seing the Answerer doth urge it more strictly, then the Magistrates (they propounding it, but as a matter of conveniency, but he pressing it, as a matter of necessity) haue not the members just cause to complaine of this as a greivance? Nor will this free him from blame, that he is but one, and claymeth but one voyce, seing he hindreth, that what agreeth not with his mind, can not be ended in the Church, but is carryed to the Classis, where he can strengthen himselfe, by helpe of those whom he gayneth to his party, by raysing causeles suspitions of some factions, or Shysmaticall intentions in his people, or in the Consistory, which they receive from him, and report to the Magistrates, who, at theyre intreaty, interpose to prevent some imagined distractions, which may fall in the English Church: whereas, if they had rightly bene informed of the wholl truth, they would have seene the request of the Church to be reasonable,