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An apologetical reply to a book called an answer to the unjust complaint of…An apologeticall reply to a booke called an ansvver to the unjust complaint of…
An apologetical reply to a book called an answer to the unjust complaint of VV.B. Also an answer to Mr. I.D. touching his report of some passages. His allegation of Scriptures against the baptising of some kind of infants. His protestation about the publishing of his writings. By John Davenport BD.An apologeticall reply to a booke called an ansvver to the unjust complaint of VV.B. Also an answer to Mr. I.D. touching his report of some passages. His allegation of Scriptures against the baptising of some kind of infants. His protestation about the publishing of his wrightings. By Iohn Davenporte BD.
Rotterdam: printed by Isaac van Waesberghe, 1636Rotterdam: printed by Isaack van Waesberghe, 1636
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
5. To the fifth] It is true, that the power of the Elders in government had not been overthrown by his bringing any matter unlawfully unto the Classis, if it were the manner of the Classis, in such cases, to remit the matter to the Consistory again. But, what one instance can he produce, in the particulars whereof they complain, or in any other case brought by him to them, wherein the matter was remitted to the Consistory: Why so? It was not because the businesses were so weighty that it hath been agreed in the Synods that they shall not be proceeded in, without advise of the Classis; nor, because they concerned many Churches, and therefore require the consent of all ⟨p. 216⟩What then? It was, because the Elders could not satisfy him, nor he them, as he intimateth in the answer before. But, why was he not satisfied? Because he would not be satisfied, unless the matter might be carried according to his will. For, no sufficient reason was given by him against it, at that time. So then, if he will end a business in the Consistory, there it shall be ended, but, if he see that it will be carried against his mind there, it shall not be ended there, but be taken out of their hands and carried to the Classis, where he knoweth how to bring his purpose about. Thus he hath two strings to his bow. But, in the mean time, is not the power of the Elders in government overthrown thereby?
5. To the fifth] It is true, that the power of the Elders in government had not bene overthrowne by his bringing any matter unlawfully unto the Classis, if it were the manner of the Classis, in such cases, to remitt the matter to the Consistory againe. But, what one instance can he produce, in the particulars whereof they complaine, or in any other case brought by him to them, wherein the matter was remitted to the Consistory: Why so? It was not because the buisenesses were so weighty that it hath bene agreed in the Synods that they shall not be proceeded in, without advise of the Classis; nor, because they concerned many Churches, and therefore require the consent of all ⟨p. 216⟩What then? It was, because the Elders could not satisfye him, nor he them, as he intimateth in the answer before. But, why was he not satisfyed? Because he would not be satisfyed, unlesse the matter might be carryed according to his will. For, no sufficient reason was given by him against it, at that time. So then, if he will end a buisenes in the Consistory, there it shall be ended, but, if he see that it will be carryed against his mind there, it shall not be ended there, but be taken out of their hands and carryed to the Classis, where he knoweth how to bring his purpose about. Thus he hath two strings to his bow. But, in the meane time, is not the power of the Elders in governmēt overthrowne thereby?