Certain disputations of right to sacraments, and the true nature of visible Christianity defending…

We should before we leave this Argument hear what the Opposers say against it: but they are all in pieces (the Papists I mean) among themselves about it, some of them confessing what we plead for, and others of them (Especially the New ones) contradicting it, but by such reasons as I think not worth the while now to discuss.

There are two Reverend men of our own, whose unhappy owning the cause that we argue against, doth call us to a more respectful Consideration of their Answers; viz. Dr. Sam▪ Ward, and Mr. Thomas Blake. The former saith, Concedo neminem Adultorum ad Baptismum admitti debere absque Professione fidei & Poenitentiae: Concedo iterum solidam poenitentiam conjunctam cum vera & vivâ fide in mediatorem obtinere praesentaneam peccatorum remissionem apud Deum (You see how much of my Argument is here yielded. Sed nego poenitentiam aut fidem Initialem, qua judicio Apostolorum sufficiebat ad dandum Baptisma desiderantibus semper eorum judicio aut praesumptione suffecisse ad tales ponendos in statu adeptae reconciliationis, remissionis peccatorum, regenerationis, aut Salutis, &c. The sum is, that there are two sorts of Repentance and Faith; one Initial, which the Apostles thought a sufficient Title to Baptism; and the other saving or connected to Justification; And this they did not expect a Profession of, or suppose, but put them in the way to it.

There are two Reverend men of our own, whose unhappy owning the cause that we argue against, doth call us to a more respectful Consideration of their Answers; viz. Dr. Sam▪ Ward, and Mr. Thomas Blake. The former saith, Concedo neminem Adultorum ad Baptismum admitti debere absque Professione fidei & Poenitentiae: Concedo iterum solidam poenitentiam conjunctam cum vera & vivâ fide in mediatorem obtinere praesentaneam peccatorum remissionem apud Deum (You see how much of my Argument is here yielded. Sed nego poenitentiam aut fidem Initialem, qua judicio Apostolorum sufficiebat ad dandum Baptisma desiderantibus semper eorum judicio aut praesumptione suffecisse ad tales ponendos in statu adeptae reconciliationis, remissionis peccatorum, regenerationis, aut Salutis, &c. The sum is, that there are two sorts of Repentance and Faith; one Initial, which the Apostles thought a sufficient Title to Baptism; and the other saving or connexed to Justification; And this they did not expect a Profession of, or suppose, but put them in the way to it.