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Certain disputations of right to sacraments, and the true nature of visible Christianity defending…
Certain disputations of right to sacraments, and the true nature of visible Christianity defending them against several sorts of opponents, especially against the second assault of that pious, reverend and dear brother Mr. Thomas Blake / by Richard Baxter ...
London: printed by R.W. for Nevil Simmons, 1658
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Again, p. 177. he saith to the citation of the foresaid Text, [I am sorry that such things should be mentioned where enquiry after truth is contended, and contention not studied. It is well known that I speak to a faith of profession, which is theirs that take so that party which is for that Christ, and not with those that professedly go in a full opposition against him, and are in a high rode (any such conviction of spirit supposed of sin, against the Holy Ghost.] Ans. It is your expressed opinion that I argue against, and not your heart, nor any thing that is well known, by other means and to other men. If the faith or profession which you make a sufficient Title to Baptism, be consistent with such persecution or sin against the Holy Ghost (as you speak) then it behooved me to manifest the consistency, though it make you sorry; I do it to show the face of your doctrine and not otherwise to contend & your sorrow is but a sorry defence. 2. What you do mean by [a faith of Profession]? This was not in the former descriptions which I examined or met with. Do you put the wrong end forward, and indeed mean [a profession of faith [or] a faith conjunct with a profession]? If not I know not what you mean. If you do, then what profession is it, and of what faith? Not of a saving faith; for that you before disclaimed; and if that were it that you mean must be professed, you yield the Cause. It is therefore the profession of some common faith; and that is it which you call Dogmatical. And if it be indeed a profession of a mere Dogmatical faith, or Assent, it is consistent with that renouncing Christ which I mentioned, and is no more than theirs [This is the Heir; come let us kill him]. But if it be more than Dogmatical, and have the Wills consent, why will no entreaty prevail with you to describe it, and tell us what it is that is consented to? and so prove that to you to be the title to Baptism and the Lord's Supper? In part or in whole; I know not whether, you tell me of their consent in the next words, [They take to that party ⟨p. 171⟩which is for Christ and not with those that professedly go in a full opposition against him.] But I dare not say that now I have all your sense. 1. Where do you find in Scripture that such a faith is the Title to Sacraments? or that ever man was admitted to them upon such a profession? 2.
Again, p. 177. he saith to the citation of the foresaid Text, [I am sorry that such things should be mentioned where enquiry after truth is contended, and contention not studied. It is well known that I speak to a faith of profession, which is theirs that take so that party which is for that Christ, and not with those that professedly go in a full opposition against him, and are in a high rode (any such conviction of spirit supposed of sin, against the Holy Ghost.] Ans. It is your expressed opinion that I argue against, and not your heart, nor any thing that is well known, by other means and to other men. If the faith or profession which you make a sufficient Title to Baptism, be consistent with such persecution or sin against the Holy Ghost (as you speak) then it behooved me to manifest the consistency, though it make you sorry; I do it to shew the face of your doctrine and not otherwise to contend & your sorrow is but a sorry defence. 2. What you do mean by [a faith of Profession]? This was not in the former descriptions which I examined or met with. Do you put the wrong end forward, and indeed mean [a profession of faith [or] a faith conjunct with a profession]? If not I know not what you mean. If you do, then what profession is it, and of what faith? Not of a saving faith; for that you before disclaimed; and if that were it that you mean must be professed, you yield the Cause. It is therefore the profession of some common faith; and that is it which you call Dogmatical. And if it be indeed a profession of a meer Dogmatical faith, or Assent, it is consistent with that renouncing Christ which I mentioned, and is no more than theirs [This is the Heir; come let us kill him]. But if it be more than Dogmatical, and have the Wills consent, why will no intreaty prevail with you to describe it, and tell us what it is that is consented to? and so prove that to you to be the title to Baptism and the Lord's Supper? In part or in whole; I know not whether, you tell me of their consent in the next words, [They take to that party